Graphics Software: Fireworks or PhotoShop

14 Jun 2005 - 10:52am
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Gerard Torenvliet
2004

I need your opinion.

I will be purchasing some graphics software in the next few days. I
have intermediate skills with Fireworks and can barely spell
PhotoShop.

Given the merger between Adobe and Macromedia (and the rumours that
Fireworks will be Fired) should I:

1. Preserve my existing skills, save $400, and get Fireworks.

2. Pitch my skills, spend more, and get PhotoShop.

If (2), how long will it take me to get up and running with PhotoShop
for tasks like manipulating screen captures?

Thanks in advance,
-Gerard

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Gerard Torenvliet
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14 Jun 2005 - 11:03am
Dave Malouf
2005

G-d! I hope the rumors are wrong. I love Fireworks and would be sorely
disappointed if Fireworks goes away.

But before I really answer your question, I need to know if you are looking
at the suites, or just the individual applications. If looking at the
suites, I'd need to know more info about your total practice before
deciding, and then if you are just lookin' at the apps, then I can chime in.

I have learned to love Fireworks, but hands down Photoshop I the more
complete tool. I live very well w/o most of Photoshop, and I have grown
quite accustom to the object interaction model of Fireworks. It combines the
features of raster app w/ those of a vector app, and its text tool is far
superior for both of these reasons.

Photoshop's greatest assets are:
1. much better layer management (but due to the object model of FW, I don't
miss it).
2. better history management.

Firework's greatest assets are:
1. vector text and strokes
2. layer + frame management. (When you export to PDF, on the mac sid, frames
get turned into individual pages; and this has become the best way for me to
create simple multipage mockups really simply, w/ frame sharing where
possible.)
3. don't' need to open up a separate tool (Imageready) to do image
optimization, HTML code creation for imagemaps, or slicing into tables or
javascript rollovers. (the code is very production usable and importable
into Homesite or Dreamweaver).
4. works well w/ Flash
5. Has a library and style stencil
6. Objects are easier to align, select, etc. due to the object model

Rumors be damned, it will be some 2 years or so before Fireworks gets the
Axe if at all. It is too tied to Dreamweaver and Flash for them to just get
rid of it w/o putting a lot of energy into making photoshop have fireworks
core features. And they can't even start this work until the merger is
complete, which it is not that close to doing.

-- dave

On 6/14/05 11:52 AM, "Gerard Torenvliet" <g.torenvliet at gmail.com> wrote:

> [Please voluntarily trim replies to include only relevant quoted material.]
>
> I need your opinion.
>
> I will be purchasing some graphics software in the next few days. I
> have intermediate skills with Fireworks and can barely spell
> PhotoShop.
>
> Given the merger between Adobe and Macromedia (and the rumours that
> Fireworks will be Fired) should I:
>
> 1. Preserve my existing skills, save $400, and get Fireworks.
>
> 2. Pitch my skills, spend more, and get PhotoShop.
>
> If (2), how long will it take me to get up and running with PhotoShop
> for tasks like manipulating screen captures?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Gerard

-- dave

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14 Jun 2005 - 10:56am
J A Sefton
2005

I'm no expert at either but I would say photoshop every time.

Adobe will surely get rid of Fireworks soon (given its Photoshop's
major competitor) and I would say (and this is only my opinion - I
don't want to get flamed bya load of Fireworks users ;-) that
Photoshop is the industry standard - Learning how to use it is only
going to help you in the future.

Cheers

Adam

On 6/14/05, Gerard Torenvliet <g.torenvliet at gmail.com> wrote:
> [Please voluntarily trim replies to include only relevant quoted material.]
>
> I need your opinion.
>
> I will be purchasing some graphics software in the next few days. I
> have intermediate skills with Fireworks and can barely spell
> PhotoShop.
>
> Given the merger between Adobe and Macromedia (and the rumours that
> Fireworks will be Fired) should I:
>
> 1. Preserve my existing skills, save $400, and get Fireworks.
>
> 2. Pitch my skills, spend more, and get PhotoShop.
>
> If (2), how long will it take me to get up and running with PhotoShop
> for tasks like manipulating screen captures?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Gerard
>
> --
> Gerard Torenvliet
> g.torenvliet at gmail.com
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14 Jun 2005 - 5:40pm
Omri Eliav
2004

Carpe Diem!
You are not going to enjoy Photoshop... (for this sort of work).

> Learning how to use it is only going to help you in the future
You can say that for almost anything, and it's true, but it doesn't mean
you'll earn something by swapping.

If I had to throw a number, I'd say 2 weeks is enough to work smoothly more
or less, but it's subjective of course.
Also by "smoothly" I don't mean the same speed for example. In that matter
(for me) Fireworks will be always faster to work with (I do master and use
both). (see David's argument).

Cheers
- Omri

> I need your opinion.
>
> I will be purchasing some graphics software in the next few days. I
> have intermediate skills with Fireworks and can barely spell
> PhotoShop.
>
> Given the merger between Adobe and Macromedia (and the rumours that
> Fireworks will be Fired) should I:
>
> 1. Preserve my existing skills, save $400, and get Fireworks.
>
> 2. Pitch my skills, spend more, and get PhotoShop.
>
> If (2), how long will it take me to get up and running with PhotoShop
> for tasks like manipulating screen captures?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Gerard

14 Jun 2005 - 5:01pm
Wendy Fischer
2004

Didn't we have this debate a couple of weeks ago? :P

I will admit that I've been using Photoshop for about 12 years now, and I just can't give it up. I've gone back and forth between Freehand and Illustrator, but I am not giving up Photoshop ever. I will say that I've started using InDesign for documentation and it's so much easier to manage than MS Word.

The one thing that is on my wishlist for Photoshop is that during my brief tenure at Adobe, the UX group had really neat Photoshop templates that contained UI and widgets for Macintosh, Windows XP, etc and allowed you to do mockups (though it was more Adobe-centric with palettes, etc). It would be nice if they released those template files or had something similar to do mockups in Photoshop.

-Wendy

Omri Eliav <omri at guiguy.co.il> wrote:
[Please voluntarily trim replies to include only relevant quoted material.]

Carpe Diem!
You are not going to enjoy Photoshop... (for this sort of work).

> Learning how to use it is only going to help you in the future
You can say that for almost anything, and it's true, but it doesn't mean
you'll earn something by swapping.

If I had to throw a number, I'd say 2 weeks is enough to work smoothly more
or less, but it's subjective of course.
Also by "smoothly" I don't mean the same speed for example. In that matter
(for me) Fireworks will be always faster to work with (I do master and use
both). (see David's argument).

Cheers
- Omri

> I need your opinion.
>
> I will be purchasing some graphics software in the next few days. I
> have intermediate skills with Fireworks and can barely spell
> PhotoShop.
>
> Given the merger between Adobe and Macromedia (and the rumours that
> Fireworks will be Fired) should I:
>
> 1. Preserve my existing skills, save $400, and get Fireworks.
>
> 2. Pitch my skills, spend more, and get PhotoShop.
>
> If (2), how long will it take me to get up and running with PhotoShop
> for tasks like manipulating screen captures?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Gerard

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14 Jun 2005 - 7:03pm
Juan Lanus
2005

Dear All,

I'm starting with Photoshop, mainly scripting for to use it as a robot
tool for a site that will containn thousands of pictures.

I compared it with the open source Photoshop-like program, "The GIMP"
(GNU Image Managing Program" or something similar).
More or less my perception is than all you can do with PS can also be
done with GIMP. It's very similar, maybe better, at layer handling.

It has a couple advantages: runs everywhere (Windows, Mac, Linux,
UNIX, you-name-it), and the price is unbeatable.

Can read and write lots of file formats.

Not like other free software, there are really good tutorials in the
internet, including a whole book for free and several more at a
bookstore near you.

Support is free, thru newsgroups.

Thousands of people are doing and sharing add-ins and the like all
around the world.

It look-and-feels like a high-quality, expensive, product.

Gerald: you might save your Fireworks skills AND your $400!.

Saludos
--
Juan Lanus
TECNOSOL
Argentina

17 Jun 2005 - 9:42am
Gerard Torenvliet
2004

Thanks all for your feedback on this topic.

It turns out that I will be purchasing PhotoShop; it's the "Industry
Standard" argument that swayed me.

I still really like Fireworks, and who know - I could be back.

Thanks again; all of your help was very useful.

-Gerard

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