iPad.

27 Jan 2010 - 6:19pm
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LukeW
2004

Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.

Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the press. and the price point -very low.
-liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely rethought. lots of new ui in iwork.
-the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media experiences you can build. my thoughts on that: http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
-the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
-the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a business perspective

Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
-camera
-storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
-usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
-GPS only on 3G model
-how's it work with an iphone?

Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
-multiple iphone apps running at once
-multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
-doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
-no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but lots of the floating controls outlined here:
http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983

your thoughts?

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27 Jan 2010 - 6:32pm
Sharon Greenfield5
2008

I'll say it: the name is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Anyone with a research or marketing degree had to take a linguistics
course, where you learned that you never name a product with something
that is only one to two letter/sound/symbol away from any other
another current product.

'iPad' is waay too close to 'iPod'.
Apple makes a mistake.

On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:

> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>
> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this
> stuff integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being
> glossed over in the press. and the price point -very low.
> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely
> rethought. lots of new ui in iwork.
> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that: http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
> business perspective
>
> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
> -camera
> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
> -GPS only on 3G model
> -how's it work with an iphone?
>
> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
> -multiple iphone apps running at once
> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but
> lots of the floating controls outlined here:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>
> your thoughts?
>
>
>
> ::
> :: Luke Wroblewski -[ www.lukew.com ]
> :: Principal/Founder, LukeW Ideation & Design
> :: luke at lukew.com | 408.513.7207
> ::
> :: Blog: http://www.lukew.com/ff/
> :: New Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/web_form_design.asp
> :: Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/site_seeing.html
> ::
>
>
>
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27 Jan 2010 - 6:35pm
yoni
2009

You think *that* is what is wrong with the name?!

Think "feminine hygiene" and repeat the product name to yourself.

~ yoni

Jonathan S. Knoll
email: jonathan at infinityplusone.com
web: http://infinityplusone.com/
linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanknoll
twitter: @yoni

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, live <human.factor.one at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll say it: the name is wrong, wrong, wrong.
>
> Anyone with a research or marketing degree had to take a linguistics
> course, where you learned that you never name a product with something that
> is only one to two letter/sound/symbol away from any other another current
> product.
>
> 'iPad' is waay too close to 'iPod'.
> Apple makes a mistake.
>
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:
>
> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>>
>> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff
>> integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the
>> press. and the price point -very low.
>> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely rethought.
>> lots of new ui in iwork.
>> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
>> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that:
>> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
>> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
>> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
>> business perspective
>>
>> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
>> -camera
>> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
>> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
>> -GPS only on 3G model
>> -how's it work with an iphone?
>>
>> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
>> -multiple iphone apps running at once
>> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
>> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
>> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but lots of
>> the floating controls outlined here:
>> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>>
>> your thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> ::
>> :: Luke Wroblewski -[ www.lukew.com ]
>> :: Principal/Founder, LukeW Ideation & Design
>> :: luke at lukew.com | 408.513.7207
>> ::
>> :: Blog: http://www.lukew.com/ff/
>> :: New Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/web_form_design.asp
>> :: Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/site_seeing.html
>> ::
>>
>>
>>
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27 Jan 2010 - 6:40pm
Sharon Greenfield5
2008

Says a *guy* with the twitter name 'yoni'.
Lol.

On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Jonathan S. Knoll wrote:

> You think *that* is what is wrong with the name?!
>
> Think "feminine hygiene" and repeat the product name to yourself.
>
>
> ~ yoni
>
> Jonathan S. Knoll
> email: jonathan at infinityplusone.com
> web: http://infinityplusone.com/
> linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanknoll
> twitter: @yoni
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, live <human.factor.one at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> I'll say it: the name is wrong, wrong, wrong.
>
> Anyone with a research or marketing degree had to take a linguistics
> course, where you learned that you never name a product with
> something that is only one to two letter/sound/symbol away from any
> other another current product.
>
> 'iPad' is waay too close to 'iPod'.
> Apple makes a mistake.
>
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:
>
> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>
> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this
> stuff integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being
> glossed over in the press. and the price point -very low.
> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely
> rethought. lots of new ui in iwork.
> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that: http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
> business perspective
>
> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
> -camera
> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
> -GPS only on 3G model
> -how's it work with an iphone?
>
> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
> -multiple iphone apps running at once
> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but
> lots of the floating controls outlined here:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>
> your thoughts?
>
>
>
> ::
> :: Luke Wroblewski -[ www.lukew.com ]
> :: Principal/Founder, LukeW Ideation & Design
> :: luke at lukew.com | 408.513.7207
> ::
> :: Blog: http://www.lukew.com/ff/
> :: New Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/web_form_design.asp
> :: Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/site_seeing.html
> ::
>
>
>
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27 Jan 2010 - 6:42pm
yoni
2009

Well, yeah. That one gets me into trouble sometimes... but it's Jonny in
Hebrew. Nothing I can do about that.

( For those who are curious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoni )

~ yoni

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM, live <human.factor.one at gmail.com> wrote:

> Says a *guy* with the twitter name 'yoni'.
> Lol.
>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Jonathan S. Knoll wrote:
>
> You think *that* is what is wrong with the name?!
>
> Think "feminine hygiene" and repeat the product name to yourself.
>
>
> ~ yoni
>
> Jonathan S. Knoll
> email: jonathan at infinityplusone.com
> web: http://infinityplusone.com/
> linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanknoll
> twitter: @yoni
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, live <human.factor.one at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll say it: the name is wrong, wrong, wrong.
>>
>> Anyone with a research or marketing degree had to take a linguistics
>> course, where you learned that you never name a product with something that
>> is only one to two letter/sound/symbol away from any other another current
>> product.
>>
>> 'iPad' is waay too close to 'iPod'.
>> Apple makes a mistake.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:
>>
>> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>>>
>>> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff
>>> integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the
>>> press. and the price point -very low.
>>> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely rethought.
>>> lots of new ui in iwork.
>>> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
>>> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that:
>>> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
>>> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
>>> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
>>> business perspective
>>>
>>> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
>>> -camera
>>> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
>>> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
>>> -GPS only on 3G model
>>> -how's it work with an iphone?
>>>
>>> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
>>> -multiple iphone apps running at once
>>> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
>>> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
>>> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but lots of
>>> the floating controls outlined here:
>>> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>>>
>>> your thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ::
>>> :: Luke Wroblewski -[ www.lukew.com ]
>>> :: Principal/Founder, LukeW Ideation & Design
>>> :: luke at lukew.com | 408.513.7207
>>> ::
>>> :: Blog: http://www.lukew.com/ff/
>>> :: New Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/web_form_design.asp
>>> :: Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/site_seeing.html
>>> ::
>>>
>>>
>>>
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27 Jan 2010 - 7:14pm
seifip
2009

IMHO the iPad is so bad compared to some of the existing, as well as
recently announced, Tablet PCs that it's not even worth discussing.

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27 Jan 2010 - 7:14pm
mcaskey
2008

I pictured a gal from Boston as Steve's secretary, talking about an "iPaaad" a few years ago, and Steve getting his first accent-inspired product idea...

Mike Caskey
Caskey Art & Development
UX MAGNET
twitter.com/mikeTcaskey

On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Jonathan S. Knoll wrote:

> You think *that* is what is wrong with the name?!
>
> Think "feminine hygiene" and repeat the product name to yourself.
>
>
> ~ yoni
>
> Jonathan S. Knoll
> email: jonathan at infinityplusone.com
> web: http://infinityplusone.com/
> linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanknoll
> twitter: @yoni
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, live <human.factor.one at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll say it: the name is wrong, wrong, wrong.
>>
>> Anyone with a research or marketing degree had to take a linguistics
>> course, where you learned that you never name a product with something that
>> is only one to two letter/sound/symbol away from any other another current
>> product.
>>
>> 'iPad' is waay too close to 'iPod'.
>> Apple makes a mistake.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:
>>
>> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>>>
>>> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff
>>> integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the
>>> press. and the price point -very low.
>>> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely rethought.
>>> lots of new ui in iwork.
>>> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
>>> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that:
>>> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
>>> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
>>> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
>>> business perspective
>>>
>>> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
>>> -camera
>>> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
>>> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
>>> -GPS only on 3G model
>>> -how's it work with an iphone?
>>>
>>> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
>>> -multiple iphone apps running at once
>>> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
>>> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
>>> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but lots of
>>> the floating controls outlined here:
>>> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>>>
>>> your thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ::
>>> :: Luke Wroblewski -[ www.lukew.com ]
>>> :: Principal/Founder, LukeW Ideation & Design
>>> :: luke at lukew.com | 408.513.7207
>>> ::
>>> :: Blog: http://www.lukew.com/ff/
>>> :: New Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/web_form_design.asp
>>> :: Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/site_seeing.html
>>> ::
>>>
>>>
>>>
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27 Jan 2010 - 7:18pm
Steve Baty
2009

OK, so aside from the name...

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27 Jan 2010 - 7:25pm
Sharon Greenfield5
2008

No Flash = no streaming porn = pointless.

On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Steve Baty wrote:

> OK, so aside from the name...
>
>
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27 Jan 2010 - 7:33pm
Steve Baty
2009

Luke,

I like your assessment. A few additional points:
- how well the iPad will work as an ebook reader with a glossy, reflective
screen - particularly outdoors or in natural lighting - is a concern. A
removable anti-glare cover/film might be a good addition;
- the choice of separate iPod & iTunes Store seems a strange one to me. And
branding the media library as iPod - when the iPhone has the exact same
capabilities with an iTunes app - doesn't gel.
- I'm curious to see the licensing model around books. US-only distribution
at the outset raises concerns for me.
- I would also liked to have seen a stylus or pen option. The form-factor
lends itself to hand-written note-taking and would have been an interesting
extension to the iPhone/iPod Touch experience.
- hardware connections on Apple products are a major annoyance for me, so
I'm hoping the dock connector is the same as the iPhone.
- I really wish there was the ability to run multiple applications at once
and switch between them. I barely understand this on the iPhone; I don't get
it at all on a device like this one.

Steve

2010/1/28 Luke Wroblewski <luke at lukew.com>

> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>
> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff
> integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the
> press. and the price point -very low.
> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely rethought.
> lots of new ui in iwork.
> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
> -the <http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951%0A-the> cover is awesome
> design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
> business perspective
>
> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
> -camera
> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
> -GPS only on 3G model
> -how's it work with an iphone?
>
> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
> -multiple iphone apps running at once
> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but lots of
> the floating controls outlined here:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>
> your thoughts?
>
>
>
> ::
> :: Luke Wroblewski -[ www.lukew.com ]
> :: Principal/Founder, LukeW Ideation & Design
> :: luke at lukew.com | 408.513.7207
> ::
> :: Blog: http://www.lukew.com/ff/
> :: New Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/web_form_design.asp
> :: Book: http://www.lukew.com/resources/site_seeing.html
> ::
>
>
>
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27 Jan 2010 - 8:13pm
Victor Lombardi
2003

The iPad human interface guidelines are an interesting read to
consider how we might create and alter interaction designs for the
device. Guidelines include 'Add Physicality and Heightened
Realism', 'Flatten Your Information Hierarchy', and 'Restrict
Complexity in Modal Tasks.'

You can download them from the Apple Developer's site if you're a
registered developer.

V

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27 Jan 2010 - 8:14pm
Neil Cadsawan
2008

Good points Luke, Steve.

The other thing is that the iPad is not a stand-alone product. It's
still an accessory to a Mac. With only 64GB of space, you'll fill
that up quickly. You still need a Mac (or PC) for the iPad to sync
with.

To expound on Luke's question of how does it work with an iPhone, I
don't think it does. This doesn't create a triangle of iPhone,
Mac, iPad. It's now a V with the Mac at the vertex. I think it
would be interesting if it ran OS X and also ran iPhone apps. Then
it would create triangle.

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27 Jan 2010 - 8:28pm
Steve Baty
2009

Realising that the iPhone also has an iPod app for music/etc. So I recant my
earlier complaint about that point.

2010/1/28 Neil Cadsawan <neil at cadsawan.net>

> Good points Luke, Steve.
>
> The other thing is that the iPad is not a stand-alone product. It's
> still an accessory to a Mac. With only 64GB of space, you'll fill
> that up quickly. You still need a Mac (or PC) for the iPad to sync
> with.
>
> To expound on Luke's question of how does it work with an iPhone, I
> don't think it does. This doesn't create a triangle of iPhone,
> Mac, iPad. It's now a V with the Mac at the vertex. I think it
> would be interesting if it ran OS X and also ran iPhone apps. Then
> it would create triangle.
>
>
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27 Jan 2010 - 8:34pm
yoni
2009

To help this discussion out, the iPad specs:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ and features:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/ .

~ yoni

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Steve Baty <stevebaty at gmail.com> wrote:

> Realising that the iPhone also has an iPod app for music/etc. So I recant
> my
> earlier complaint about that point.
>
> 2010/1/28 Neil Cadsawan <neil at cadsawan.net>
>
> > Good points Luke, Steve.
> >
> > The other thing is that the iPad is not a stand-alone product. It's
> > still an accessory to a Mac. With only 64GB of space, you'll fill
> > that up quickly. You still need a Mac (or PC) for the iPad to sync
> > with.
> >
> > To expound on Luke's question of how does it work with an iPhone, I
> > don't think it does. This doesn't create a triangle of iPhone,
> > Mac, iPad. It's now a V with the Mac at the vertex. I think it
> > would be interesting if it ran OS X and also ran iPhone apps. Then
> > it would create triangle.
> >
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27 Jan 2010 - 9:15pm
Joshua Muskovitz
2008

Yes, the name is terrible. I'm waiting for them to come out with an
even bigger version (ala Kindle DX) -- they can call it the
Max-iPad.

And yes, the comment about the lack of porn for it should be taken
very, very seriously. Porn always drives new technology, if only
because nobody has figured out how to transmit drugs electronically
yet.

Oh wait.
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2002/03/50820

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27 Jan 2010 - 9:38pm
John Yuda
2009

First, a few things that I'm very excited about with this device:

* The potential for apps like the demoed N.Y. Times app. BUT -- if
every publisher has to develop their own version of this, I view it
as a failure. I'm hoping Apple steps up here with a wrapper that
independent publishers can take advantage of.

* The pricing: hardware, software (iWork seems like a bargain to me)
and the 3G rates, which may be the most "revolutionary" thing Apple
has done here.

* That cover looks pretty awesome too.

To address some of Luke's hardware/software gaps:

* Personally, I don't see much use for a camera here. I guess people
talk about video conferencing, but in all honesty I see very little
attraction in that.

* I assume they're using the dock connector with various adapters
(and one of the "camera" adapters appears to be a dock-to-USB
adapter) in part to make the device as small/light as they can.

* Multiple users: for better or worse, I think Apple sees this as a
one-per-person device, not a one-per-household device -- more like an
iPhone than an iMac.

* Lack of multitasking: I can sometimes see the appeal of this, but I
do notice that nobody ever complains about the Wii or Nintendo DS
being unable to multitask. I wonder why we come at these devices from
such different perspectives when they're all basically just
computers.

* Not running flash is, in my view, an advantage. Anything that keeps
intrusive flash ads from annoying me is a good thing.

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27 Jan 2010 - 9:39pm
John Yuda
2009

Oh, and about the pornography point: there *are* porn sites using
HTML5 video capabilities to serve porn to iPhones right now. I think
we can assume that porn suppliers will support this device as well.

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27 Jan 2010 - 9:40pm
Rod Farmer
2008

Agree with the comments above.

The exciting new possibilities with this device are in the hardware,
with the notable exception of the missing cameras for obvious video
conferencing capabilities. The device is currently quite squarely
focused on media *consumption*.

Given the capabilities of the processor and the types of interaction
you might expect from a mobile device with this form factor, I'm a
little disappointed (but not shocked) by the use of the iPhone OS for
device like this. The lack of integration with the iPhone is a little
surprising given Apple's previous focus on devices components of
larger service integration.

As for stylus', they are typically not well suited to capacitive
screens, so no real shock there albeit there have been some in-roads
with magnetic pens.

What I really didn't expect was the use of Micro SIMs for 3G
connectivity. Limited support and compatibility issues that prevent
MBB customers SIM swapping. I'm not sure if there is a convincing
argument for that decision.

Rod

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27 Jan 2010 - 7:27pm
Dave Jones
2010

I'm new to the list. I've been looking at the details on the iPad and felt
compelled to reply to this thread.

Naming issues aside (I think Twitter's trending topics may decide someone's
job fate at Apple tonight), I'm a little puzzled by the thing. In general,
I'm not sure exactly how to integrate it into my portable electronics
package. It does a number of things an iPhone does, and a few things a
netbook does. But, it doesn't seem designed to really take over the role of
a true laptop. Neither the UI nor the OS really seem to offer that kind of
workspace very effectively. It's not portable enough to replace an iPod, and
it can't do some important things an iPhone does.

Then you have the gaps mentioned by Luke Wroblewski, which are even more
puzzling -- especially since some of those gaps were solved on a smaller,
cheaper platform. No simultaneous apps? For users accustomed to streaming
and negotiating tons of information in multiple applications and workspaces
(Apple's core audience, I think)? I understand this can be dealt with in
later software updates. But you know people want it. Why not build it in to
begin with if all it takes is an update to solve it down the road?

That said, the screen is beautiful from what I've seen, and the bigger touch
surface can lead to some very interesting design choices for interfaces and
gestures. I really want to put my hands on one to play with these things.
I'm just not sure Apple has thought all the way through its place in
people's already cluttered electronic lives, or how to market it.

Dave Jones
Old Dominion University

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Luke Wroblewski <luke at lukew.com> wrote:

> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>
> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff
> integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the
> press. and the price point -very low.
> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely rethought.
> lots of new ui in iwork.
> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
> business perspective
>
> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
> -camera
> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
> -GPS only on 3G model
> -how's it work with an iphone?
>
> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
> -multiple iphone apps running at once
> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but lots of
> the floating controls outlined here:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>
> your thoughts?
>
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27 Jan 2010 - 9:29pm
gasin
2008

@ Victor Lombardi - Could you be kind enough to share the "human
interface guidelines" with the rest of us. I REALLY want to pick
their brains on this one..

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27 Jan 2010 - 9:59pm
Mark Schraad
2006

I think its pretty cool. The name is fine... however expected and
undramatic.

As for the ap and iphone OS and interface working on a pc platform -
we will have to play and watch as it grows and evolves. I do think we
are seeing the next successful model of software distribution with the
platform being the gateway and toll taker. Pretty smart in my
estimation.

As soon as they are taking them I will place my order for a couple.
The wife's macbook is about to die and she basically surfs the web,
uploads photos and checks email. The ipad connected by wireless to my
home network (with more storage available there) will work just great.
I also anticipate her being able to play music on the stereo and a
hundred other things from the couch.

I am personally not worried about flash at all.

Mark

On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:

> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>
> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this
> stuff integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being
> glossed over in the press. and the price point -very low.
> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely
> rethought. lots of new ui in iwork.
> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media
> experiences you can build. my thoughts on that: http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a
> business perspective
>
> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
> -camera
> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
> -GPS only on 3G model
> -how's it work with an iphone?
>
> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
> -multiple iphone apps running at once
> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but
> lots of the floating controls outlined here:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>
> your thoughts?

27 Jan 2010 - 10:03pm
Justin Davis
2008

I'm still a bit perplexed as to where the device really fits in
someone's workflow/day. Jobs noted that it split the difference
between a laptop and a smartphone and filled that gap. Is there
really a big enough gap there to justify buying another device? I'll
be interested to see how the market reacts to it. Just a cursory
glance at Twitter today revealed some disappointment.

On the UX front, I think it poses some interesting challenges. Because
it's a straight touchscreen natively but can run robust apps that
demand more complex interaction, I'm curious to see how those things
are solved (resizing a photo and constraining proportions, for
example). There should be some interesting interaction design
problems to solve.

Also, the fact that it doesn't appear easy to use while standing up is
interesting. From what I saw, it doesn't look like you can type on the
device with one hand, which hurts usage while someone's standing.
Because you need both hands on the device to type, you need to be
sitting. Not good for the person chilling at the bus stop and wanting
to surf the web for a bit.

All in all, I think new devices are always exciting, but I'm not sure
this is going to live up to the hype. I may be wrong, and hope I am.
Only time will tell.

I wrote a blog post earlier today talking about more of the UX issues
surrounding the device. If you're interested, check it out here:
http://www.maderalabs.com/what-the-ipad-means-for-user-experience/

Justin Davis
Madera Labs
http://www.maderalabs.com
@jwd2a

27 Jan 2010 - 10:40pm
Neil Cadsawan
2008

In looking at the product shots at the bottom of
http://www.apple.com/ipad/design/, I'm really wondering about the
interactions of using the keyboards in the both the dock and in the
case - as folded into a laptop-like configuration with virtual
keyboard.

With the keyboard dock, or even a bluetooth keyboard, the act of
typing will be great, but then think about when you want to select
some text. Now you have to use the iPhone means of copy/paste. You
take your hands off the keyboard and have to touch the screen. I
haven't played with one yet, but that appears to be an awkward
situation. When using a keyboard, I think most people would look to
using a mouse for text selection. Maybe I'll be wrong and it's not
as awkward as I'm thinking.

The same goes for using it with the virtual keyboard. Copy/paste on
the iPhone isn't so bad since you don't really move your hands a
significant distance. But now, you'll have to move your hands
several inches to perform this action. Just seems to be strange in
this case. Hopefully I'll have an opportunity to play with one soon
and see what this is like.

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27 Jan 2010 - 10:49pm
Charles Boyung
2009

It doesn't replace my phone, and it doesn't replace my computer, so
the only need that I see it fitting for me is the e-reader that I
don't currently have (and don't really see a need for yet either).
So unless it can do eBooks better than the Kindle or Nook, I really
don't see the point. If I really want to watch videos on the go, I
can do it on my phone or my laptop, which are both already with me
pretty much everywhere I go (hence the reason I don't have an
e-reader yet).

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27 Jan 2010 - 11:09pm
Michael Micheletti
2006

I keep seeing a control surface when I look at the iPad. The whole
tablet computer idea is meh for me, but I'm imagining it as a "soft
console" audio mixing board for a musician, or displaying a couple of
virtual turntables for a DJ. Or, more in my line of work, a
touchscreen console for radio operators. Any sort of professional
application that would benefit from faders, knobs, zoom, multitouch
physics and so on could use a control surface like this. And in a
dedicated control-surface application, the lack of multitasking
capability is no problem.

This first release doesn't look optimal for these purposes. Almost
any application like this would need external hardware for
processing, and this thing doesn't have enough horsepower or ports.
But I expect to see these in artists' hands on stage sometime later
this year.

And Apple's much vaunted Top-Secret design silo failed them this
time: one normal everyday focus group session would have brought out
the sniggers when they said the name the first time.

Michael Micheletti

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28 Jan 2010 - 12:20am
LukeW
2004

To me this is the market for this device. My wife is exactly the same, she surfs the Web, reads blogs, watches TV & movies, and looks at photos on her Macbook. This is a couch device, a bedroom device (don't read that the wrong way), a kitchen device (swivel it to cook from a recipe). All places where a laptop always felt wrong.
I think of it a digital version of your leisure activities –reading, communicating, light gaming, surfing, etc. Not your work activities (PC/laptop) or your on the go activities (smartphone).

On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:59 PM, mark schraad wrote:

> As soon as they are taking them I will place my order for a couple. The wife's macbook is about to die and she basically surfs the web, uploads photos and checks email. The ipad connected by wireless to my home network (with more storage available there) will work just great. I also anticipate her being able to play music on the stereo and a hundred other things from the couch.

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28 Jan 2010 - 12:22am
LukeW
2004

i like this thinking. ever see this?
http://gas2.org/2009/06/09/electric-superbike-uses-iphone-for-its-dashboard/

On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Michael Micheletti wrote:

> I keep seeing a control surface when I look at the iPad. The whole
> tablet computer idea is meh for me, but I'm imagining it as a "soft
> console" audio mixing board for a musician, or displaying a couple of
> virtual turntables for a DJ. Or, more in my line of work, a
> touchscreen console for radio operators. Any sort of professional
> application that would benefit from faders, knobs, zoom, multitouch
> physics and so on could use a control surface like this. And in a
> dedicated control-surface application, the lack of multitasking
> capability is no problem.

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:: Principal/Founder, LukeW Ideation & Design
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28 Jan 2010 - 1:27am
Neil Cadsawan
2008

Other conversations that I've been having today revolve around
whether or not this could be an introduction of slow design into the
computing world. Best described here:
http://www.good.is/post/hurry-up-and-wait/

Could be. I too see this as more of a book or newspaper replacement
than a laptop or iphone replacement. The form factor leads you to
interact with it differently than either of those two.

We must now come up with the content that will make this device
shine. Apple's given us their tabula rasa, so to speak, and it will
only be as good as the content that best makes use of its technology.

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28 Jan 2010 - 1:36am
Jim Jeffers
2007

If multi-touch is of interest to you then the iPad is a dream come
true. As a designer having access to an affordable and capable
computing device with a 10" multitouch screen is a dream come true!

That aside I think that eBooks and everything else promoted is great
but I think Robert Fabricant nailed it in his article about the
tablet is really well suited for casual gaming:
http://designmind.frogdesign.com/blog/why-the-apple-tablet-is-a-real-039games039-changer.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:
frog-design-blog (All Blogs)

That aside as far as background applications.. I haven't needed them
on the iPhone yet and I'd rather not find out I've installed some
useless apps I hardly ever touch that are eating away the precious
battery life of my portable device. I believe this is one of the main
reasons the iPhone/touch and the iPad won't do this.

As far as where this device fits in to people's lives and workflows
- I think Apple is counting on it's developer base to figure that
out for them. So much fun we can have developing for this thing. Ah
man it's a great time to be a designer :)

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28 Jan 2010 - 1:40am
Anonymous

I think these observations are on track - what people's wives need ie
what *most
*people do in terms of computing.

Computing on a mass scale as envisioned by "ubiquitous" computing a few
years ago was pointless.
Fridges that track when you are out of milk etc...light bulbs that run
software inside them...it was technology looking
to fit into our lives.

Yet, the problem of using the CPUs we already have was still there. We're
becoming chained to the net, but we're also
chained physically to our laptop. Widespread dissemination of digital media
- basically the internet is still not a solved problem...
getting youtube, and online newspapers and the www into the hands of
everyone to compete with the TV. Not a solved problem.
I am sure user research would show that many people do not walk around the
house with their laptops (designers are probably an exception!)

I think Apple really lives by the idea of bringing content to the masses
through Design. They may not have got all the nuances
of what that means right in this release, but they will. The nuances
include the form factor in your hand (have they made it natural at
1.5lbs), the durability of it after a fall, the battery life (really
10hrs?), the radiation and heat (is it really going to be cool to the
touch?),
and the general usability when textual input is required.

Navid

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Luke Wroblewski <luke at lukew.com> wrote:

> To me this is the market for this device. My wife is exactly the same, she
> surfs the Web, reads blogs, watches TV & movies, and looks at photos on her
> Macbook. This is a couch device, a bedroom device (don't read that the wrong
> way), a kitchen device (swivel it to cook from a recipe). All places where a
> laptop always felt wrong.
> I think of it a digital version of your leisure activities –reading,
> communicating, light gaming, surfing, etc. Not your work activities
> (PC/laptop) or your on the go activities (smartphone).
>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:59 PM, mark schraad wrote:
>
> > As soon as they are taking them I will place my order for a couple. The
> wife's macbook is about to die and she basically surfs the web, uploads
> photos and checks email. The ipad connected by wireless to my home network
> (with more storage available there) will work just great. I also anticipate
> her being able to play music on the stereo and a hundred other things from
> the couch.
>
>
>

28 Jan 2010 - 2:39am
Josh Coe
2009

I agree with the casual-home-device assessment. And not necessarily
targeting techies, but maybe those who have been admiring Apple from
afar but whose tech use was too casual to warrant purchasing an
iPhone/Macbook. My friends have mixed reviews of the device, but my
parents are stoked. They want one for each of them. The iPad has
potential with seniors. Large type possibilities with elegant zoom-in
on the web and (I'm guessing) font-resizing in iBooks. My father
loves puzzle games, and I could see him getting into them on his iPad
on the couch, whereas he never would have bought an iPod.

Possibilities exist in the workplace as well. I can see a doctor
holding one of these, flipping through a patient's virtual file as
they talk. I've talked to healthcare professionals who don't like
to use computers with patients because it feels impersonal; the iPad
might feel less so.

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28 Jan 2010 - 3:08am
Graham Sear
2010

Really interesting chat, here's my input...

>From a design point of view it does look like a giant iPhone although
with a much fatter, uglier border around the outside. Not being able
to run multiple apps at the same time is a minus point; not being
able to chat online and browse the web will become pretty
frustrating.

I assume the durability of it will be better tha the iPhone screen
especially as, like other laptops/netbooks it doesn't have a fold
down screen to protect it.

But it still does look interesting, the name doesn't reallly bother
me, it does seem to be filling a price gap, macs laptops are really
expensive and now more people can afford to had an equivalent at
home/work etc.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up

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28 Jan 2010 - 6:49am
Joshua Porter
2007

A few other random thoughts on the iPad:

- First off, to get a sense of the interactions you need to watch the video: http://www.apple.com/ipad/
(watching this changed the way I view the product...even though there is a lot of back-slapping going on)

- Starting with 100K+ software apps (existing iPhone apps) is killer...already way ahead of anything else
- Price is amazing. I was talking to a guy on the Litl team ( http://litl.com/ ) and he was going on about how expensive the 178 degree screens are...in fact they had to choose between touch and 178 degree...and Apple has done both at an amazing price.
- Feels like it is mostly for non-geeks who aren't doing "computing"...mostly for informal, family type sort of thing (showing photos, cooking w/recipes etc). For example, my mother-in-law will buy this instead of a Macbook.
- The design constraints we saw with the iPhone seem to apply here...most apps seem to only have very few action buttons, etc.
- The accessories seem a bit odd, but necessary
- It "syncs" with a PC or Mac...so is a peripheral like the iPod or iPhone, not a central-hub device...also the small memory amounts support this idea as well
- I'm not crazy about the look of the rebuilt apps, but for their target audience it's probably spot on...realistic-looking, easy to grok and get started with
- it makes sense there is no back-facing camera right now...it would be awkward taking pictures with a tablet-shaped thingy.
- they just blew Amazon away...there is no reason to own a Kindle now, imo. This is a perfect thing to read a digital paper, magazine, or book on.

- The real interesting bits for me are iWork and the Brushes apps...these are apps that can make this useful for a professional, not just a homebody. I can't wait for a wireframing app or a simple design app of some sort.

On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:

> Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
>
> Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the press. and the price point -very low.
> -liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar & contacts are nicely rethought. lots of new ui in iwork.
> -the times demo is just the start of the kind of integrated media experiences you can build. my thoughts on that: http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?951
> -the cover is awesome design it supports swivel, tip, and protects
> -the $9 for numbers vs. $229 for excel is really interesting from a business perspective
>
> Notable hardware gaps (concerning cause no software update will fix)
> -camera
> -storage sizes 64GB for videos, photos, and music -does not cut it
> -usb port -it uses "camera" adaptors instead
> -GPS only on 3G model
> -how's it work with an iphone?
>
> Notable software gaps (can/will be addressed with software updates)
> -multiple iphone apps running at once
> -multiple users -how do you share the device at home?
> -doesn't run flash = many holes on web pages
> -no really new interactions -all iphone UI or the most part. but lots of the floating controls outlined here:
> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?983
>
> your thoughts?
>
>

Joshua Porter, Founder
Bokardo Design
Interface design & strategy for social web apps
mobile: 508-954-1896
http://bokardo.com
porter at bokardo.com
twitter: bokardo

28 Jan 2010 - 6:49am
Kevin Silver
2010

Luke, your spot on. I'll even take it one step further and say that
Apple should have named it the iKid. I see this as the perfect device
for my son (albeit, he's barely 2) and my nieces and nephews who are
elementary age and beyond. Maybe it could also have been named
iFamily, this isn't the ultimate device for me, it's for everyone else
in my family.

On Jan 28, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Luke Wroblewski wrote:

> To me this is the market for this device. My wife is exactly the
> same, she surfs the Web, reads blogs, watches TV & movies, and looks
> at photos on her Macbook. This is a couch device, a bedroom device
> (don't read that the wrong way), a kitchen device (swivel it to cook
> from a recipe). All places where a laptop always felt wrong.
> I think of it a digital version of your leisure activities –reading,
> communicating, light gaming, surfing, etc. Not your work activities
> (PC/laptop) or your on the go activities (smartphone).
>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:59 PM, mark schraad wrote:
>
>> As soon as they are taking them I will place my order for a couple.
>> The wife's macbook is about to die and she basically surfs the web,
>> uploads photos and checks email. The ipad connected by wireless to
>> my home network (with more storage available there) will work just
>> great. I also anticipate her being able to play music on the stereo
>> and a hundred other things from the couch.
>
>
>
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28 Jan 2010 - 12:04am
Bailey
2009

Was I the only person in the world who was expecting it to be the
MacBook Air with a touchscreen and no keyboard?

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28 Jan 2010 - 7:59am
Jack L. Moffett
2005

On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:08 PM, graham.sear at gmail.com wrote:

> I assume the durability of it will be better tha the iPhone screen
> especially as, like other laptops/netbooks it doesn't have a fold
> down screen to protect it.

Graham,

I don't understand. The durability of the iPhone screen is superb. I've been using iPhones (original and 3Gs) since its original release without any kind of case or screen protector, and have not had a single scratch.

Jack

Jack L. Moffett
Senior Interaction Designer
inmedius
412.459.0310 x219
http://www.inmedius.com

You could design a process to catch
everything, but then you're overprocessing.
You kill creativity. You kill productivity.
By definition, a culture like ours that
drives innovation is managed chaos.

-Alex Lee
President, OXO International

28 Jan 2010 - 8:15am
SemanticWill
2007

How often have you dropped your iPhone? I personally haven't, but have
many friends that have gone through 2, 3, even 4 - a drop from 4' is
deadly.

I won't denigrate the feature set because I am not the intended
audience. For business travel, I need all my design apps and I need
them multimodal, not sovereign - and multitasking is a must. I also
can't not have skype for conference calls on the road - so it's not a
replacement for my mbp: it would just be another device that serves no
purpose for which I already have tools. For the intended audience, it
may or may not be great - I have no idea the personas this is designed
and built for - but certainly not a traveling ux practitioner.

Cheers,

~ will

"Where you innovate, how you innovate,
and what you innovate are design problems"

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Jack Moffett wrote:

>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:08 PM, graham.sear at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I assume the durability of it will be better tha the iPhone screen
>> especially as, like other laptops/netbooks it doesn't have a fold
>> down screen to protect it.
>
> Graham,
>
> I don't understand. The durability of the iPhone screen is superb.
> I've been using iPhones (original and 3Gs) since its original
> release without any kind of case or screen protector, and have not
> had a single scratch.
>
> Jack
>
>
> Jack L. Moffett
> Senior Interaction Designer
> inmedius
> 412.459.0310 x219
> http://www.inmedius.com
>
>
> You could design a process to catch
> everything, but then you're overprocessing.
> You kill creativity. You kill productivity.
> By definition, a culture like ours that
> drives innovation is managed chaos.
>
> -Alex Lee
> President, OXO International
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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28 Jan 2010 - 9:06am
James Page
2008

I think one issue is that it is not widescreen. If it about consuming media
shouldn't the device be wide screen for movies.

Is it a good user experiance watching a movie on a narrow screen?

Also I can not just plug in devices into the USB.

And there is the issue of DRM. Especially with apple controlling application
release which can take weeks. You can not role out a bug fix, or a improved
feature. Everybody is talking about continuous improvements as the way
forward. Apple place large block on this by thier approval basis.

James
http://blog.feralabs.com

2010/1/28 Will Evans <will at semanticfoundry.com>

> How often have you dropped your iPhone? I personally haven't, but have many
> friends that have gone through 2, 3, even 4 - a drop from 4' is deadly.
>
> I won't denigrate the feature set because I am not the intended audience.
> For business travel, I need all my design apps and I need them multimodal,
> not sovereign - and multitasking is a must. I also can't not have skype for
> conference calls on the road - so it's not a replacement for my mbp: it
> would just be another device that serves no purpose for which I already have
> tools. For the intended audience, it may or may not be great - I have no
> idea the personas this is designed and built for - but certainly not a
> traveling ux practitioner.
>
> Cheers,
>
> ~ will
>
> "Where you innovate, how you innovate,
> and what you innovate are design problems"
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Will Evans | Director, Experience Design
> tel: +1.617.281.1281 | will at semanticfoundry.com
> http://blog.semanticfoundry.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/semanticwill
> aim: semanticwill
> gtalk: semanticwill
> twitter: semanticwill
> skype: semanticwill
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Jack Moffett wrote:
>
>
>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:08 PM, graham.sear at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I assume the durability of it will be better tha the iPhone screen
>>> especially as, like other laptops/netbooks it doesn't have a fold
>>> down screen to protect it.
>>>
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I don't understand. The durability of the iPhone screen is superb. I've
>> been using iPhones (original and 3Gs) since its original release without any
>> kind of case or screen protector, and have not had a single scratch.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> Jack L. Moffett
>> Senior Interaction Designer
>> inmedius
>> 412.459.0310 x219
>> http://www.inmedius.com
>>
>>
>> You could design a process to catch
>> everything, but then you're overprocessing.
>> You kill creativity. You kill productivity.
>> By definition, a culture like ours that
>> drives innovation is managed chaos.
>>
>> -Alex Lee
>> President, OXO International
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
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28 Jan 2010 - 9:20am
Scott McDaniel
2007

I've dropped mine several times, but it doesn't seem the uses of the
iPad are exactly matched with the iPhone -
"running to the taxi", for instance. Of course it's durability is a
concern, and may prove to be a major
shortcoming, but I think so much of the discussion seems to be around
it being in the same space as the iPhone/iTouch,
or for the single persona of "UX practitioner on the IxDA list" (which
you specifically call out here,
so thank you!)

Cheers,
Scott

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Will Evans <will at semanticfoundry.com> wrote:
> How often have you dropped your iPhone? I personally haven't, but have many
> friends that have gone through 2, 3, even 4 - a drop from 4' is deadly.
>
> I won't denigrate the feature set because I am not the intended audience.
> For business travel, I need all my design apps and I need them multimodal,
> not sovereign - and multitasking is a must. I also can't not have skype for
> conference calls on the road - so it's not a replacement for my mbp: it
> would just be another device that serves no purpose for which I already have
> tools. For the intended audience, it may or may not be great - I have no
> idea the personas this is designed and built for - but certainly not a
> traveling ux practitioner.
>
> Cheers,
>
> ~ will
>
> "Where you innovate, how you innovate,
> and what you innovate are design problems"
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Will Evans | Director, Experience Design
> tel: +1.617.281.1281 | will at semanticfoundry.com
> http://blog.semanticfoundry.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/semanticwill
> aim: semanticwill
> gtalk: semanticwill
> twitter: semanticwill
> skype: semanticwill
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Jack Moffett wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:08 PM, graham.sear at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I assume the durability of it will be better tha the iPhone screen
>>> especially as, like other laptops/netbooks it doesn't have a fold
>>> down screen to protect it.
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I don't understand. The durability of the iPhone screen is superb. I've
>> been using iPhones (original and 3Gs) since its original release without any
>> kind of case or screen protector, and have not had a single scratch.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> Jack L. Moffett
>> Senior Interaction Designer
>> inmedius
>> 412.459.0310 x219
>> http://www.inmedius.com
>>

--
"You always have the carny connection." - Clair High

28 Jan 2010 - 9:14am
Mark Schraad
2006

everything is widescreen if you adjust the height (and put controls
there).

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:06 AM, James Page <jamespage at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think one issue is that it is not widescreen. If it about
> consuming media
> shouldn't the device be wide screen for movies.
>
> Is it a good user experiance watching a movie on a narrow screen?
>
> Also I can not just plug in devices into the USB.
>
> And there is the issue of DRM. Especially with apple controlling
> application
> release which can take weeks. You can not role out a bug fix, or a
> improved
> feature. Everybody is talking about continuous improvements as the way
> forward. Apple place large block on this by thier approval basis.
>
> James
> http://blog.feralabs.com
>
> 2010/1/28 Will Evans <will at semanticfoundry.com>
>
>> How often have you dropped your iPhone? I personally haven't, but
>> have many
>> friends that have gone through 2, 3, even 4 - a drop from 4' is
>> deadly.
>>
>> I won't denigrate the feature set because I am not the intended
>> audience.
>> For business travel, I need all my design apps and I need them
>> multimodal,
>> not sovereign - and multitasking is a must. I also can't not have
>> skype for
>> conference calls on the road - so it's not a replacement for my
>> mbp: it
>> would just be another device that serves no purpose for which I
>> already have
>> tools. For the intended audience, it may or may not be great - I
>> have no
>> idea the personas this is designed and built for - but certainly
>> not a
>> traveling ux practitioner.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ~ will
>>
>> "Where you innovate, how you innovate,
>> and what you innovate are design problems"
>>
>>
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Will Evans | Director, Experience Design
>> tel: +1.617.281.1281 | will at semanticfoundry.com
>> http://blog.semanticfoundry.com
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/semanticwill
>> aim: semanticwill
>> gtalk: semanticwill
>> twitter: semanticwill
>> skype: semanticwill
>>
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> ---
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Jack Moffett wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:08 PM, graham.sear at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I assume the durability of it will be better tha the iPhone screen
>>>> especially as, like other laptops/netbooks it doesn't have a fold
>>>> down screen to protect it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> I don't understand. The durability of the iPhone screen is superb.
>>> I've
>>> been using iPhones (original and 3Gs) since its original release
>>> without any
>>> kind of case or screen protector, and have not had a single scratch.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack L. Moffett
>>> Senior Interaction Designer
>>> inmedius
>>> 412.459.0310 x219
>>> http://www.inmedius.com
>>>
>>>
>>> You could design a process to catch
>>> everything, but then you're overprocessing.
>>> You kill creativity. You kill productivity.
>>> By definition, a culture like ours that
>>> drives innovation is managed chaos.
>>>
>>> -Alex Lee
>>> President, OXO International
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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28 Jan 2010 - 9:25am
Scott McDaniel
2007

See, I'd love to be in a position where my market share and audience
obliged us to look at my productions in this way ;)
I've maintained (or tried) to keep this perspective on Google Wave, for example.

To go with single user examples, my fiancee immediately said upon
watching it "My mom would be all over this",
since she only browses for news, has corrected eyesight and does
email, also finding herself frustrated with
even longstanding "commonly used" standard computer interactions to do
simple tasks, such as scrolling with a mouse
and copy-pasting.

Scott

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Neil Cadsawan <neil at cadsawan.net> wrote:
> Other conversations that I've been having today revolve around
> whether or not this could be an introduction of slow design into the
> computing world.  Best described here:
> http://www.good.is/post/hurry-up-and-wait/
>
> Could be.  I too see this as more of a book or newspaper replacement
> than a laptop or iphone replacement.  The form factor leads you to
> interact with it differently than either of those two.
>
> We must now come up with the content that will make this device
> shine. Apple's given us their tabula rasa, so to speak, and it will
> only be as good as the content that best makes use of its technology.
>
--
"You always have the carny connection." - Clair High

28 Jan 2010 - 9:36am
AlokJain
2006

I think ipad is going to be wonderful for graphic application. I would
love to see omnigraffle on this, it should make the designing much
more fun - could be just me. (I know mouse offers greater precision
but that can be supported with software).

Also, I think for other elements like video manipulation etc, it
could be a great tool.

Overall I think biggest feature is multi-touch with such a large
screen, opens up so many possibilities. It allows one to build an
endless workspace which can be navigated with scaling up and down,
moving things around - it's exciting for iteration designs.

Cheers
Alok Jain (AJ)
http://insightify.com

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28 Jan 2010 - 9:56am
Tracy Boyington
2007

As someone's wife, I agree. But my husband would use it the same way I
would... updating blog/Facebook or reading email in front of the TV,
watching a movie on the road, looking up a recipe in the kitchen,
surfing the web anywhere. Apple deliberately placed it between the
iPhone and a "real computer," and it fits there nicely. I'm not going to
do any actual *work* on an iPad. I'd use a laptop for that. I don't need
to be able to use it with one hand - I've got my iPhone for that.

~~~~~
Tracy Boyington tracy_boyington at okcareertech.org
Oklahoma Department of Career & Technology Education
Stillwater, OK http://www.okcareertech.org/cimc

>>> Navid Sadikali <navid.sadikali at gmail.com> 1/28/2010 12:40 AM >>>
I think these observations are on track - what people's wives need ie
what *most *people do in terms of computing.

28 Jan 2010 - 9:32am
Jack L. Moffett
2005

On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Will Evans wrote:

> How often have you dropped your iPhone? I personally haven't, but have many friends that have gone through 2, 3, even 4 - a drop from 4' is deadly.

Enough that I stopped counting. I've dropped it face down on a concrete floor a couple times (slid out of my shirt pocket when I bent over). As long as it lands on a flat surface, the glass is fine. Drop it on, say, cobblestones, and it will shatter.

Best,
Jack

Jack L. Moffett
Senior Interaction Designer
inmedius
412.459.0310 x219
http://www.inmedius.com

There is no good design that is not
based on the understanding of people.

- Stefano Marzano
CEO of Philips Design

28 Jan 2010 - 10:53am
Robert Reimann
2003

Overall, a nice and compelling (esp. for some applications) technology
package, but perhaps not groundbreaking at the level all the hype might have
promised.

Top things I was surprised/disappointed it does not include (some already
mentioned):

1. Forward-facing still/video camera (would have made an amazing Skype
terminal, and could have added an incredible dimension to network gaming,
could have allowed "magic mirror" shared whiteboarding, etc.) So many
possibilities there; I guess I need to wait and see next year when gen2 is
announced. :)
2. Flash support (work it out with Adobe, already... the new processor can
probably handle it fine)
3. Pen option (notetaking in the margins of ebooks would be huge for the edu
market; I suppose the soft keyboard could fulfill that function without a
stylus to constantly misplace).
4. Wireless sync, at least for apps. Content could be handled in other ways
(see my next comment). Why should I have to drag it to the computer all the
time? Isn't this thing supposed to help me get untethered from a traditional
computer?
5. Cloud content solution. For now I guess we need to rely on 3rd parties
for similar functionality (see my next comment).

I'm less worried about memory limitations for content; apps like
SimplifyMedia can address that. The future of media distribution (already
underway) is cloud storage and access. With Apple's Lala acquisition, iTunes
in the cloud may not be that far off.

Multi-tasking would have been nice... maybe it will come in a later OS
release. But for the masses and casual use, it's probably okay for now (and
certainly simpler to use), though lack of an ability to run an arbitrary
social networking app in the background is a shame. If you could even run a
main app and a single mini-app simultaneously, that might scratch the itch
for many.

Media-sharing of photos, etc. would have been a nice out of box... e.g., let
your parents/friends subscribe to your iPhoto collection, etc. But 3rd
parties can fill the void there.

I'm excited about the new iPad app suite, not so much because of the
specific apps themselves (some of which are impressive), but because they
(along with the new SDK) will provide a springboard for app developers to
build on and create a new breed of bigger-screen multitouch-based software.
That is what will really spark a revolution.

Robert.

---

Robert Reimann | User Experience Design | Sonos, Inc.

28 Jan 2010 - 10:54am
LukeW
2004

my wife's husband is the same way but he doesn't use recipes to cook. he wings it :)

For those interested, I wrote up an expanded set of thoughts on the market, interactions, and design of the iPad at:
http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?990

thanks~

On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Tracy Boyington wrote:

> As someone's wife, I agree. But my husband would use it the same way I
> would... updating blog/Facebook or reading email in front of the TV,
> watching a movie on the road, looking up a recipe in the kitchen,
> surfing the web anywhere. Apple deliberately placed it between the
> iPhone and a "real computer," and it fits there nicely. I'm not going to
> do any actual *work* on an iPad. I'd use a laptop for that. I don't nee

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28 Jan 2010 - 11:05am
Sean Gerety
2009

I love the fact that it's larger multi-touch device. I think that Apple has
nailed the speed of interaction with the user's input. (On other devices,
the lag of device touch interaction with my interaction drives me crazy.)

I wish we could see more of John Elias and Wayne Westerman's hand in the
mutli-touch gestures and on screen keyboard. I've had a Touch Stream
keyboard for years and they do some wonderful things around using chord
modifiers to make typing easier. For example, instead of reaching for the
shift key, on the Touch Stream keyboard you place all four fingers on the
home row of the left side to place the keyboard in "Caps" mode for right
side. And vise verse. Above the home row for 'Control' and below the home
row for 'Alt'.

I think that the device has great potential for other types of "keyboards"
similar to the Optimus Tactus keyboard.
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/ Which I think we saw
in the "Brush" demo. (Which my kids would love).

And kudos to Jonathan Ive. He's the best thing that ever happened to Apple.

I'll hold the rest of my opinions until I can get my hands on one.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Tracy Boyington <
tracy_boyington at okcareertech.org> wrote:

> As someone's wife, I agree. But my husband would use it the same way I
> would... updating blog/Facebook or reading email in front of the TV,
> watching a movie on the road, looking up a recipe in the kitchen,
> surfing the web anywhere. Apple deliberately placed it between the
> iPhone and a "real computer," and it fits there nicely. I'm not going to
> do any actual *work* on an iPad. I'd use a laptop for that. I don't need
> to be able to use it with one hand - I've got my iPhone for that.
>
> ~~~~~
> Tracy Boyington tracy_boyington at okcareertech.org
> Oklahoma Department of Career & Technology Education
> Stillwater, OK http://www.okcareertech.org/cimc
>
>
> >>> Navid Sadikali <navid.sadikali at gmail.com> 1/28/2010 12:40 AM >>>
> I think these observations are on track - what people's wives need ie
> what *most *people do in terms of computing.
>
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28 Jan 2010 - 11:21am
Jack L. Moffett
2005

On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Sean Gerety wrote:

> And kudos to Jonathan Ive. He's the best thing that ever happened to Apple.

Um, aside from that guy, uh, what's his name... oh, Steve!

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28 Jan 2010 - 11:27am
Anonymous

I'm surprised nobody mentioned HTML5 video. People are just too worried
about Flash.

On 28 January 2010 16:21, Jack Moffett <jackmoffett at mac.com> wrote:

>
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Sean Gerety wrote:
>
> > And kudos to Jonathan Ive. He's the best thing that ever happened to
> Apple.
>
>
> Um, aside from that guy, uh, what's his name... oh, Steve!
>
>
>
> Jack L. Moffett
> Senior Interaction Designer
> inmedius
> 412.459.0310 x219
> http://www.inmedius.com
>
>
> Design is a process -
> an intimate collaboration between
> engineers, designers, and clients.
>
> - Henry Dreyfuss
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28 Jan 2010 - 12:54pm
Loren Baxter
2007

I've heard a few complaints about the size of the border.. come on folks!
You need an area to hold the thing without accidentally clicking stuff on
the edges of the screen. A small border would be a usability disaster for
the iPad.

- Loren

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Rafael Schouchana <rafaschou at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm surprised nobody mentioned HTML5 video. People are just too worried
> about Flash.
>
> On 28 January 2010 16:21, Jack Moffett <jackmoffett at mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Sean Gerety wrote:
> >
> > > And kudos to Jonathan Ive. He's the best thing that ever happened to
> > Apple.
> >
> >
> > Um, aside from that guy, uh, what's his name... oh, Steve!
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack L. Moffett
> > Senior Interaction Designer
> > inmedius
> > 412.459.0310 x219
> > http://www.inmedius.com
> >
> >
> > Design is a process -
> > an intimate collaboration between
> > engineers, designers, and clients.
> >
> > - Henry Dreyfuss
> >
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28 Jan 2010 - 1:01pm
Loren Baxter
2007

I also think the iPad is really damn cool, but I wonder why so many folks on
Twitter are ready to trash their Kindle. The e-ink that it uses is a great
technology which makes it equally comfortable to read as real print. When I
read a 20-page PDF on any sort of screen, I feel like my eyes are going to
melt out - can't imagine reading a whole book on one of these things.

Additionally, the sustainability factor of reading a whole book on a
powered, backlit computer, versus the extremely low power Kindle, seems a
little off to me.

Basically I think it may be an awesome new form of computing, but have
serious doubts that it's the ultimate e-book product.

- Loren

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