Call for action (was: ADMIN: OT - Wireless Job)

21 Jan 2005 - 5:33am
9 years ago
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Manu Sharma
2003

List ADMIN, David Heller wrote:

"I don't want to discuss this...

I have put both Ziya and Allen on moderation because of the back and
forth of this thread. People can feel free to send me questions and I
will try to answer when I can
[...]
I'm sure like last time people will say thank you and be critical. I
appreciate both messages, so feel free to send them my way."

I don't want a discussion on list moderation. Just writing in to
re-iterate what Dave said and what it means for this list.

Ziya has been taken off the list. It's quite likely that he may soon
unsubscribe.

I have occasionally found points of disagreement with Ziya's posts but
I'm also extremely appreciative of his contributions. These have been
immense, both in their frequency and incisiveness.

If you feel, as I do strongly, that Ziya's absence will impair the
quality of discussions on this list. Please express your concern
privately to Dave dave at ixdg.org

Thanks,
Manu.

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21 Jan 2005 - 11:55am
Pradyot Rai
2004

Manu Sharma <manu at orangehues.com> wrote:
> If you feel, as I do strongly, that Ziya's absence will impair the
> quality of discussions on this list. Please express your concern
> privately to Dave dave at ixdg.org

Another very similar example -- Few weeks back CNN decided to throw
out cross-fire. The reasons they gave to convince themselves was that
it was "dividing America in the very middle". I wondered if they were
trying to solve the problem of divided America or just wanted to shut
people talking about it(?) This was just the example of self imposed
censorship driven by some kind of intrinsic fears and self-righteous
attitude. As a result they just banned certain kind of debate and
abolished certain viewer ship. It was a bad decision making because
they failed to justify any moral or logical rationale for doing so.

This was just an example. I see similarity because I used to love
crossfire. And like many in this list, I appreciate Ziya's
perspectives (not that I have any less regards for Dave's
contributions to managing and spinning debates on this list).

Without going in detail, we have to ask ourself -- what good a
guidelines like "you can post 3 replies per thread per day" does to
moderate Ziya's rhetoric?

Prady

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