Calendars integration online

18 Dec 2008 - 5:26am
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Maria De Monte
2008

Hello Folks,

have a question for you...

I am actually developing an on line working platform, and a few of the potential users I surveyed has asked for an on line calendar that could interact and integrate local calendars such as that from Outlook, Thunderbird and so on.

I'm pretty sure something that works like this already exists, but we seem like we cannot find any similar application around the web...

Anyone has any suggestion??

Thank you all,

Cheers,

Maria

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18 Dec 2008 - 9:37am
Bill Welense
2008

Hi Maria,

You should look into the vCal and iCal formats. They are universal
calendar invitation formats that work with most any calendar
application. Essentially, your application would generate a vCal/iCal
file and prompt the user to save/open the file on their computer. When
they do, it would open with their calendar app (Outlook, etc.), which
would take adding it to their calendar from there.

The file formats for vCal and iCal is pretty easy to generate using a
server-side scripting language like PHP or Perl. As far as I know the
formats are pretty interchangeable too; any app that works with one
is likely to work with the other (such is the case w/ Outlook).

Best of luck,
Bill

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18 Dec 2008 - 2:22pm
Chris English
2008

Take a look at Remember the Milk - http://www.rememberthemilk.com

They've taken a pretty integrated approach.

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19 Dec 2008 - 4:33am
Maria De Monte
2008

Ok John,

thank you for your help. We are working on LifeRay open source social collaboration software http://www.liferay.com/, which is organized in portlets. Each portlet is dedicated to one specific function. For that entitled to organize calendar, events and appointments, we are searching for a way to make it interact with local or online calendar, so that they can syncronize themselves as google calendar does with any calendar, no matter MS or Mozilla, or whatever.

Most codes we found allows exporting Outlook events to an online calendar, through .ics, but only google calendar (and a few other applications) does also the opposite.

Should you have any idea about it, they'd be very apreciated.

Maria

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A: Maria De Monte <mtdemonte at yahoo.it>
Inviato: Giovedì 18 dicembre 2008, 23:36:26
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Ok.
If you can give an example ill have a dig around see what the collective in the office can come up with
J
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From: "Maria De Monte"
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:25:42 -0000
To: John M. Morse<john.morse at eduserv.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Calendars integration online

Uhm,

thought about it, but still looking for something to syncronize already existing calendars with those on desktop, not having to open any new account...

Thank though,

best holidays,

Maria

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Da: John M. Morse <john.morse at eduserv.org.uk>
A: Maria De Monte <mtdemonte at yahoo.it>
Inviato: Giovedì 18 dicembre 2008, 13:22:39
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Goggle calendar sync?
http://www.google.com/googlecalendar/new.html

John Morse
Information Architect
Professional Services Group
UPA,Prince 2, ISEB IT Architect, IAI, AIIM, MBCS

21 Dec 2008 - 1:51am
DampeS8N
2008

just remember, the cell-based traditional paper cal is designed for
the limitations of paper. Don't bring them into your app. There is
no reason you can't have all your months run together on the week
with a color/shade alteration to show the change in month, rather
than forcing a page. People don't think in months, they think in
weeks.

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21 Dec 2008 - 3:37am
Steve Baty
2009

Will,

I was curious as to the basis for this assertion. I'd be interested in any
research or testing you might have come across on this item.

2008/12/21 William Brall <dampee at earthlink.net>

> People don't think in months, they think in
> weeks.
>
>
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21 Dec 2008 - 4:20am
Andrew Boyd
2008

Steve,

for myself, I'd be interested in anecdotal hearsay from Will - this seems
way out there to me :)

Also for myself, I've been mindful of weeks lately, but only because of an
extremely time-constrained project that I am part of.... it has deliverables
due within certain weeks.

Best regards, Andrew

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> Will,
>
> I was curious as to the basis for this assertion. I'd be interested in any
> research or testing you might have come across on this item.
>
> 2008/12/21 William Brall <dampee at earthlink.net>
>
> > People don't think in months, they think in
> > weeks.
> >
> >
> Steve
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21 Dec 2008 - 9:14am
Ricardo Couto
2008

> People don't think in months, they think in
> weeks.

its not true. specially with different cultures of yours.

I am brazilian. In brazil the people dont think in weeks. absolutely not.
I already saw some people asking what "that number" beside of the week means.

21 Dec 2008 - 12:06pm
Mayur Karnik
2007

Talking about cultures, we need to think about notions of time across
cultures before we talk about calendars. The eastern notion of time, for
instance, is cyclical as compared to a linear sense of time that the west
has. Although, this might not have a deep impact on placing a conference
reminder on the calendar, it could have on a birthday reminder or more so on
a comet sighting reminder that may live its second coming.. more so if the
application is strong enough to cling to for years and if it has legacy
notions (why can't we transfer our calendars to our kids?)...

Add to it Lunar calendars and solar calendars and the doomsday... do we have
an integration with the Mayan calendar which has a defined non-future beyond
2012? We need to dissociate ambitious notions of adapting to cultures and be
specific in our goals? If all we need is something that helps us remember
the milk, its a completely different debate!..

And yes, people in general (IMHO) don't think so much in sequentially
occuring placeholders such as weekends, but more in terms of events... a
year passes by not just between jan 1st and dec 31st, but between moments
worth remembering, between more human organic placeholders such as your
daugther's birthday or your first day at your new job...

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Ricardo Couto <couto.ricardo at gmail.com>wrote:

> > People don't think in months, they think in
> > weeks.
>
> its not true. specially with different cultures of yours.
>
> I am brazilian. In brazil the people dont think in weeks. absolutely not.
> I already saw some people asking what "that number" beside of the week
> means.
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21 Dec 2008 - 7:10pm
SemanticWill
2007

An interesting study of this is the book about Chandler.

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On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:51 PM, William Brall <dampee at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> just remember, the cell-based traditional paper cal is designed for
> the limitations of paper. Don't bring them into your app. There is
> no reason you can't have all your months run together on the week
> with a color/shade alteration to show the change in month, rather
> than forcing a page. People don't think in months, they think in
> weeks.
>
>
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21 Dec 2008 - 11:58pm
DampeS8N
2008

When you talk about a calendar program, you are talking about keeping
track of events. A person looking to keep track of events is most
likely to be interested in what will happen that friday, rather than
what will happen 2 or 3 fridays from then.

That isn't to say people don't need to access dates based on month,
but that they wish almost exclusively to be told of events coming in
the next week, and most importantly the day they are currently in.

Be it a planner or birthday calendar.

These claims are based on countries where the weekend is the norm.
Anywhere that works on a different schedule will be different.

Like I said, being able to add your doctor's appointment 6 months
from now by month is useful, but forcing the user to click 6 times to
get to the month, then click on the right day, then enter the time,
then click 6 more times to get back, Is a pointless waste of effort.

Show the whole year. Show more than a whole year even. Rework the
scroll bar to tab between months rather than pages for quick access.

Splitting on the month doesn't help anyone.

I hope this is clearer, I can only assume people thought I meant to
page on the week and not the month, which is the exact opposite of
what I meant.

Paper can't scroll, windows can. Wall calenders have pages because
paper can't scroll. Possibly also to provide space for 11 extra
images. Some calenders add 6 extra months of the next year to have 17
more pictures.

So when I say people think in weeks, I mean that in the generalized
corporate world that most computer users work in, being shown a lot
of information about one week is more important than being able to
see one month on the screen all at once.

In other words. I would rather have 7 long stacked cells with 4-8
lines in potential of detailed text, than 35 cells (4-6 unused) with
less space available for me to see what is going on.

If I were less busy, as many people are, I'd like to have an endless
stream of 7 day periods, no wasted space and no need for next buttons.
And the scrollbar should be color-coded like the months are in the
pane, so I can click on a color to get to the month. (put the name of
the month in there too.)

Most of the world follows the 7 day paradigm. Even when they don't
follow the 5 on 2 off work week paradigm. At least when you talk
about the workplace.

I'll draw a diagram if people ask me to.

Will

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