question for tablet pros -- where do you use it?

3 Nov 2008 - 7:18pm
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jet
2008

Other than, "On the computer".

Where do you use it relative to your keyboard -- which I'm (incorrectly)
assuming is directly in front of you. Do you hold it on your lap? Put
it where your mouse pad would go? Prop it on the keyboard?

I'm just getting around to learning to use an Intous3 6x9 with photoshop
and I have it where I'd normally have my mouse pad (I use the Intous
mouse as my regular mouse much of the time).

But it feels really awkward, as I normally draw with a sketchbook or pad
in my lap or on a drawing table. Translating the arm movements needed
to draw isn't working out well -- is this something I'll eventually
figure out, or am I "doing it wrong?"

thx,

--jet

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4 Nov 2008 - 12:46am
Janne Kaasalainen
2008

Hi,

> I'm just getting around to learning to use an Intous3 6x9 with
> photoshop and I have it where I'd normally have my mouse pad (I use
> the Intous mouse as my regular mouse much of the time).

I'm holding mine like this as well. Both are in arc before me,
keyboard a bit on the left and the Wacom towards right. It took a
while to get used to, but I need the keyboard far too much to keep it
elsewhere.

- Janne

4 Nov 2008 - 11:04am
Michael Micheletti
2006

>
> I'm just getting around to learning to use an Intous3 6x9 with photoshop
>> and I have it where I'd normally have my mouse pad (I use the Intous mouse
>> as my regular mouse much of the time).
>>
>
> I'm holding mine like this as well. Both are in arc before me, keyboard a
> bit on the left and the Wacom towards right. It took a while to get used to,
> but I need the keyboard far too much to keep it elsewhere.
>

I push my keyboard up under the monitor so it leans on the monitor stand,
and then have the tablet leaning on the keyboard's wrist rest at an angle,
with the bottom propped in my lap and chair scooted in tight. A bit of a
balancing act, but it's become automatic now - push keyboard forward, grab
the tablet, lean it up, scooch in my chair, grab the pen - sort of all in a
motion. Keeps the keyboard in play as well as the tablet. Only care to have
is move the coffee mug out of the way first says Mister Clumsy here...

Michael Micheletti

4 Nov 2008 - 11:04pm
Krystal Higgins
2008

I also keep it in place of my mousepad, to the right. However, I have
it on a tray that is slightly higher than my keyboard, so that I can
swing it over the right-side number keys (since I don't use those).

It took about 3 months to get used to it, but I had a motive--elbow
tendinitis from using a mouse for so long :) So the benefits
outweighed the learn time.

Cheers!

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5 Nov 2008 - 5:18am
Andy Polaine
2008

I had bad RSI a few years ago and trained myself to use the mouse with
my left hand. My tablet is to the right of my keyboard (I can't draw
left-handed, but mousing is easy).

When in more intensive use, I do the prop-the-keyboard-up move and
usually us it directly in front of me, though I still find I cramp my
hand up unnaturally with it sometimes because I have it one-to-one
mapped to the screen.

Best,

Andy

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4 Nov 2008 - 7:51am
Jose E.
2008

I'm using my Wacom on the the same position my mouse used to be,
actually I don't use the mouse anymore. But I don't draw things on
the tablet.

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5 Nov 2008 - 2:15pm
Wendy Fischer
2004

I use both the tablet and a trackball.

The tablet is on the left (I am left handed with writing) and the trackball is on the right (I use a mouse with my left hand).

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I also keep it in place of my mousepad, to the right. However, I have
it on a tray that is slightly higher than my keyboard, so that I can
swing it over the right-side number keys (since I don't use those).

It took about 3 months to get used to it, but I had a motive--elbow
tendinitis from using a mouse for so long :) So the benefits
outweighed the learn time.

Cheers!

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5 Nov 2008 - 11:10pm
jet
2008

Krystal R.Higgins wrote:
> I also keep it in place of my mousepad, to the right. However, I have
> it on a tray that is slightly higher than my keyboard, so that I can
> swing it over the right-side number keys (since I don't use those).

Ok, there's an idea I need to try.

Right now I have two systems, and have this setup:

on table: mousepad1 keyboard1 mousepad2/tablet2
on tray: keyboard2

So where I'd normally prop up the mousepad in front of the keyboard, I
have another keyboard.

But a swing-out tray that lets me move the tablet is an idea I really
need to try, thanks!

--
J. Eric "jet" Townsend, CMU Master of Tangible Interaction Design '09

design: www.allartburns.org; hacking: www.flatline.net; HF: KG6ZVQ
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5 Nov 2008 - 11:36pm
Krystal Higgins
2008

Great, hopefully it works for you! Here's a model close to what I
have: http://www.ergoware.com/images/Clip-Mouse.jpg

I had to do some mickey-mousing to get it to work the way I like, but
most of it was already built-in.

Cheers!

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7 Nov 2008 - 5:54am
Sascha Brossmann
2008

Due to heavy RSI I dumped the mouse some time ago and switched
completely to a trackball and a tablet. Which alternatingly are
placed where the mouse pad used to be (I use one of them
predominantly, depending on the task at hand). I prefer to use a
compact keyboard (w/out number block) with this setup: switching
between input devices is both faster & easier and my mainly active
(right) arm feels more %u201Cnaturally%u201D positioned.

Basic sketching is mostly done with paper and pencil though. They're
learned as nearly every other interface, but you simply can't beat
several millenniums of development and refinement. Compared to this,
the tablet may feel indeed quite strange and awkward at first, as the
hand-eye-coordination differs much to that on paper. Most of which is
pure conditioning and is rather well overcome after a few days to
weeks of practice. Still, if I need to do lots of drawing or image
editing work on screen, I like to tape architectural drawing paper
onto the tablet. The increased friction sometimes does pure wonders.
(For navigation I prefer the slicker default tablet surface, though).

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7 Nov 2008 - 9:42am
Kevin Doyle
2007

When I had a 6x9 Wacom tab, I had it where I'd place my mouse. I used
it almost exclusively and almost never used my mouse anymore -- the
level of fine-grain control you get with the tablet blows the mouse
out of the water.

As far as the awkwardness, yeah, you'll have that at first. I also
draw and sketch -- once you learn look at the screen and not think
about your hand not being in the location you're making the mark,
things will click for you. I can now draw just as well on the screen
as I do in a sketch pad. Once you get acclimated to the tablet, I'm
pretty sure you'll never go back to using a mouse...

If you're an artist, I recommend getting Corel Painter -- the brush,
surface and paint effects engines blow away what you get in
Photoshop... but there's a learning curve with Painter, too,
especially if you've been using Photoshop for years.

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7 Nov 2008 - 10:37am
Jeff Seager
2007

Great topic! I've been using the smallest of the Wacom tablets for
several years, and I don't use the mouse at all anymore. Mine is to
the right of the keyboard and a little farther away, and where I once
had repetitive stress issues with my wrist and elbow, now it's in my
shoulder. I think that's because my elbow is not supported, and at
times I'm drawing in Photoshop more than I realize.

The solution, I suspect, will be this:
http://www.wacom.com/graphire/6x8_bt.cfm

With a wireless tablet, I'll be able to prop the thing on my lap and
kick back from the desk, instead of feeling chained to the spot as I
often do. I think the ability to vary your posture and position is
more of a solution than finding a single comfortable position and
staying there. Just like drawing with pencil and paper.

I second what Kevin says above about Corel software. Great stuff.

YMMV,
Jeff

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7 Nov 2008 - 10:06am
Karen McGrane
2005

I've used a 6x8 Wacom for 10 years. It goes to the right of my
keyboard, where the mouse pad would go.

I still use a mouse too, and it just goes on top of the Wacom. I
switch back and forth quite regularly. I use the pen for drawing apps
or fine-grained work, and the mouse for tasks like email or writing
documents.

I really believe switching back and forth is better for your wrists.
I've never had a problem with repetitive strain from the mouse, but
I have strained my wrist from gripping the pen too much.

The ramp-up time to get accustomed to the Wacom can be long. Be
patient with yourself and switch back to the mouse (or whatever else
you use) when you start to get frustrated. After a while you will get
the hang of it.

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