touchscreen predictive text input: Swype

10 Sep 2008 - 8:30pm
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.pauric
2006

http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html

Very intriguing, almost gestural

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10 Sep 2008 - 9:18pm
Barbara Ballard
2005

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:30 PM, pauric <pauric at pauric.net> wrote:

> http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html
>
> Very intriguing, almost gestural
>

I wish them all the luck in the world. I've seen several dozen text input
methods for mobile, including at least three that looked like this. I'm
pretty sure one of them was available for download on PocketPC 2004. I hope
some of them will succeed.

Obvious drawbacks: words not in dictionary require a different input method
(and he clearly knows it with his T9 experience); still touch so requires
vision; he has to sell it and get it in devices which is profoundly
difficult in this industry

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11 Sep 2008 - 7:16am
Dave Malouf
2005

For people who have an iPhone there is WritingPad. A free notepad
application through the app store. If people want to start playing
with this concept.

It is hard to learn, but fun. B/c iPhone doesn't allow you to add
SIPs (keyboards) that go beyond the single application sandbox, it is
hard to really make use of it.

On the WiMo side of things there is a vendor called Dasur. They have
a slide mechanism that works similarly as Swype and a thumbable
keypad as well.
http://dasur.co.il/

Enjoy!

-- dave

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11 Sep 2008 - 9:44am
Sarah Kampman
2008

I was going to mention WritingPad as well. In fact, the interface looks
almost identical to the Swype video -- I wouldn't be surprised if it
were from the same folks. I actually found it quite easy to learn, and
prefer it to hunt-and-peck on the iPhone, especially when composing a
long email. My biggest complaint is its frequent crashes -- at this
point, almost a deal-breaker. If they improve quality, I anticipate
using this more than the Notes feature.

-----Original Message-----
For people who have an iPhone there is WritingPad. A free notepad
application through the app store. If people want to start playing
with this concept.

It is hard to learn, but fun. B/c iPhone doesn't allow you to add
SIPs (keyboards) that go beyond the single application sandbox, it is
hard to really make use of it.

11 Sep 2008 - 11:13am
kimbieler
2007

I would like to see someone using this with their finger, not a stylus
or pen cap.

One thing I've been wondering about the iPhone -- yeah, the keypad is
hard to use. So why don't they just give you a bigger version in
landscape mode (if that's the right term for it)? I've keep tilting my
phone hoping one day the keypad will rotate...

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11 Sep 2008 - 11:38am
Dave Malouf
2005

If you want to see the keyboard in landscape then go to a web page w/
a form element, be in landscape and focus on that form element. It
will be in landscape.

You will see why they don't do it. There isn't enough space in that
direction to support the keyboard and give you enough context of the
screen. I used to do it, but have stopped out of frustration.

Is the keyboard REALLY that hard to use? I still resist this
assumption.

Also, about the swype style keyboard being usable w/o a stylus. I've
had a lot of success with it. I would say that the accuracy of the
expereince is 100% b/c of the amazing logics behind the keyboard and
not due to any increase in physicality due to swyping per se, though
the aesthetics of the motion is intriguing. I don't like it for
composing but I do like it for one 2 two word writing.

Where it might really be interesting is in the password space.

-- dave

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11 Sep 2008 - 11:43am
Jack L. Moffett
2005

On Sep 11, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Kim Bieler wrote:

> One thing I've been wondering about the iPhone -- yeah, the keypad
> is hard to use. So why don't they just give you a bigger version in
> landscape mode (if that's the right term for it)? I've keep tilting
> my phone hoping one day the keypad will rotate...

It will do that in Safari, but nowhere else. I've found that I can
type much more quickly with my thumbs in this fashion, whereas the
device is to narrow to use both thumbs in portrait mode.

Jack

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everything, but then you're overprocessing.
You kill creativity. You kill productivity.
By definition, a culture like ours that
drives innovation is managed chaos.

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11 Sep 2008 - 11:49am
Jack L. Moffett
2005

On Sep 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, David Malouf wrote:

> You will see why they don't do it. There isn't enough space in that
> direction to support the keyboard and give you enough context of the
> screen. I used to do it, but have stopped out of frustration.

I completely agree. If you have to place the cursor to correct
something, it's nearly impossible. The magnifying glass pops up such
that the part you need to see is off the edge of the screen.

Jack

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bad design than good design.
It is, in effect, conditioned
to prefer bad design, because
that is what it lives with.
The new becomes threatening,
the old reassuring.

- Paul Rand

11 Sep 2008 - 2:34pm
kimbieler
2007

Cheers, Dave.

Yes, I think the iPhone keyboard is hard to use -- in part because the
touchscreen is so sensitive. Luckily it often knows what I'm trying to
type, even if every letter is the one to the right of the one my fat
fingers are trying to hit. Also, I am getting better at it with
practice.

On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:38 AM, David Malouf wrote:

> If you want to see the keyboard in landscape then go to a web page w/
> a form element, be in landscape and focus on that form element. It
> will be in landscape.
>
> You will see why they don't do it. There isn't enough space in that
> direction to support the keyboard and give you enough context of the
> screen. I used to do it, but have stopped out of frustration.
>
> Is the keyboard REALLY that hard to use? I still resist this
> assumption.
>
> Also, about the swype style keyboard being usable w/o a stylus. I've
> had a lot of success with it. I would say that the accuracy of the
> expereince is 100% b/c of the amazing logics behind the keyboard and
> not due to any increase in physicality due to swyping per se, though
> the aesthetics of the motion is intriguing. I don't like it for
> composing but I do like it for one 2 two word writing.
>
> Where it might really be interesting is in the password space.
>
> -- dave
>
>
>
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11 Sep 2008 - 4:31pm
Dave Malouf
2005

This is something that a lot of people aren't understanding with
virtual keyboards, is that "success" is not about touch accuracy,
but about output accuracy.

Most of us are used to recognizing our mistakes and going to the back
key immediately. But with a virtual keyboard, you can get every letter
wrong, but the system will out put the right word.

This is really important when judging a virtual keyboard, but is also
something that requires a very acute change in behavior from the
physical world.

The Swype and SlideIT keyboards are 100% about output and not input.
Its a fundamental shift that slows adoption. Same with something like
the iPhone keyboard.

But the real pain is that it is not 100% there either. By no means do
i think that the iPhone keyboard is complete.

--- dave

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11 Sep 2008 - 10:35am
Melissa Casburn
2008

Unfortunately for some of us, Writing Pad is no longer available in the U.S. App Store. A quick Google search indicated that it may be a copyright issue with the Swype folks?

----- Original Message ----
From: Sarah Kampman <skampman at planview.com>
To: David Malouf <dave at ixda.org>; discuss at ixda.org
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:44:50 AM
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] touchscreen predictive text input: Swype

I was going to mention WritingPad as well. In fact, the interface looks
almost identical to the Swype video -- I wouldn't be surprised if it
were from the same folks. I actually found it quite easy to learn, and
prefer it to hunt-and-peck on the iPhone, especially when composing a
long email. My biggest complaint is its frequent crashes -- at this
point, almost a deal-breaker. If they improve quality, I anticipate
using this more than the Notes feature.

-----Original Message-----
For people who have an iPhone there is WritingPad. A free notepad
application through the app store. If people want to start playing
with this concept.

It is hard to learn, but fun. B/c iPhone doesn't allow you to add
SIPs (keyboards) that go beyond the single application sandbox, it is
hard to really make use of it.

12 Sep 2008 - 11:56am
jet
2008

I'm a huge fan of the predictive typing software that came with my
XV6800. I don't remember who makes it offhand, but it works amazingly
well and I can enter data very quickly on my handheld now that I've used
it a few months. (It remembers the oddest strings, long ones that I
only type occasionally.)

Kim Bieler wrote:
> Cheers, Dave.
>
> Yes, I think the iPhone keyboard is hard to use -- in part because the
> touchscreen is so sensitive. Luckily it often knows what I'm trying to
> type, even if every letter is the one to the right of the one my fat
> fingers are trying to hit. Also, I am getting better at it with practice.
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:38 AM, David Malouf wrote:
>
>> If you want to see the keyboard in landscape then go to a web page w/
>> a form element, be in landscape and focus on that form element. It
>> will be in landscape.
>>
>> You will see why they don't do it. There isn't enough space in that
>> direction to support the keyboard and give you enough context of the
>> screen. I used to do it, but have stopped out of frustration.
>>
>> Is the keyboard REALLY that hard to use? I still resist this
>> assumption.
>>
>> Also, about the swype style keyboard being usable w/o a stylus. I've
>> had a lot of success with it. I would say that the accuracy of the
>> expereince is 100% b/c of the amazing logics behind the keyboard and
>> not due to any increase in physicality due to swyping per se, though
>> the aesthetics of the motion is intriguing. I don't like it for
>> composing but I do like it for one 2 two word writing.
>>
>> Where it might really be interesting is in the password space.
>>
>> -- dave
>>
>>
>>
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> Posted from the new ixda.org
>> http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=32873
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
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>
>
>
> -- Kim
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1 Oct 2008 - 7:42am
Ron Mishel
2008

I found a program that is available to the public, unlike Swype!

It's called SlideIT, has a working demo and a purchasing option.

Check it out guys:
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php

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