Cloud computing and semantic web

6 Sep 2008 - 11:12pm
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Charusmitha Ram
2008

I think I have just grasped the idea of "Cloud computing" after reading the
flurry of discussions about Google Chrome. What does cloud computing mean
for the Semantic web and how does this connection translate to new
interaction models? Can anyone think of futuristic scenarios that suggest
some very compelling experiences?
Smitha Ram
Senior Interaction Designer
Thomson Reuters | www.thomsonreuters.com
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7 Sep 2008 - 3:46am
netwiz
2010

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 01:12:18 -0400, Smitha wrote:

>I think I have just grasped the idea of "Cloud computing" after reading the
>flurry of discussions about Google Chrome. What does cloud computing mean
>for the Semantic web and how does this connection translate to new
>interaction models? Can anyone think of futuristic scenarios that suggest
>some very compelling experiences?

And to add to the question, whilst there's a flurry of excited debate
about what sort of platform Chrome is, there's sod all about whether
it means diddly squat to anyone other than members of this list.
What's the relevance to the 9-5 guy and gal? What will they be able to
do differently, or better?

Is Chrome and 'the cloud' going to enable the semantic web in a
paradigm shift? Is it going to make access to information and apps
easier and better? Is it going to make information easier to find? Or
what?

* Nick Gassman - Usability and Standards Manager - http://ba.com *

7 Sep 2008 - 6:02am
.pauric
2006

Nick, you'll get a kick out of this post taking a shot at Arrington

http://teddziuba.com/2008/09/a-web-os-are-you-dense.html

"Users have pretty basic needs when it comes to computers. They
want word processing, spreadsheets, communications, and games. These
needs have not changed much since the advent of the personal computer.
So, when your Aunt asks why her 1.2GHz computer isn't fast enough to
run an online word processor that has the same fucking features as the
1987 version of Corel WordPerfect, you don't have an answer for her.
There is no justification.

The "Web Operating System" just highlights how much journalists
don't know about computers. "

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7 Sep 2008 - 8:30am
Charusmitha Ram
2008

Here's an article on the "Confluence of Cloud computing and the Semantic
Web"..
http://ecloudm.blogspot.com/2008/07/confluence-of-cloud-computing-semantic.html

Michael Hill points out that "One of the promises of the Semantic Web is
ease of integration of information across a wide spectrum of data artifacts
and systems."; and Chrome seems to do just that. He also quotes "As these
mega trends mature the confluence of the two may indeed bring to fruition
the promise of loosely coupled ubiquitous services that have context and are
ultimately understood by machines."

It is intriguing to learn about what all this really means and what is the
real value for internet users. Michael promises to explore these
possibilities in his blogs that follow and I will stay tuned in.

Smitha Ram
Senior Interaction Designer
Thomson Reuters | www.thomsonreuters.com
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7 Sep 2008 - 1:35pm
netwiz
2010

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 05:02:18, Pauric wrote:

>Nick, you'll get a kick out of this post taking a shot at Arrington
>
>http://teddziuba.com/2008/09/a-web-os-are-you-dense.html

That's great. Just great.

* Nick Gassman - Usability and Standards Manager - http://ba.com *
* I vote for reply-to to go to the list*

7 Sep 2008 - 1:42pm
netwiz
2010

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:30:11 -0400, Smitha wrote:

>Michael Hill points out that "One of the promises of the Semantic Web is
>ease of integration of information across a wide spectrum of data artifacts
>and systems.";

Eh? Have I missed something? I don't think the semantic *web* is going
to help integrate information from systems that aren't web enabled,
even if they are fronted with html (and related) tech. To do semantic,
you have to tag the data (don't you?) either manually or
programatically.

>and Chrome seems to do just that.

How? How does Chrome apply semantic meaning to source data?

* Nick Gassman - Usability and Standards Manager - http://ba.com *
* I vote for reply-to to go to the list*

7 Sep 2008 - 1:45pm
SemanticWill
2007

that's fantastic, and exactly what I meant last week when I said it was pure
horsepucky, given that google/chrome was not going to be writing any machine
code, kernels, low-level threads, or drivers anytime in the immediate
ever...

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Nick Gassman <nick at netwiz.demon.co.uk>wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 05:02:18, Pauric wrote:
>
> >Nick, you'll get a kick out of this post taking a shot at Arrington
> >
> >http://teddziuba.com/2008/09/a-web-os-are-you-dense.html
>
> That's great. Just great.
>
> * Nick Gassman - Usability and Standards Manager - http://ba.com *
> * I vote for reply-to to go to the list*
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7 Sep 2008 - 2:06pm
SemanticWill
2007

What's even funnier, is that he now has a fake Ted Dziuba twittering as him
here:
http://twitter.com/teddziuba

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Nick Gassman <nick at netwiz.demon.co.uk>wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 05:02:18, Pauric wrote:
>
> >Nick, you'll get a kick out of this post taking a shot at Arrington
> >
> >http://teddziuba.com/2008/09/a-web-os-are-you-dense.html
>
> That's great. Just great.
>
>
>
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7 Sep 2008 - 2:28pm
Charusmitha Ram
2008

Nick,
You're right. I might have misspoken and I'll admit I don't know much about
the inner workings of chrome, so I'll stay away from any mention of Chrome
and keep it out of this thread. But I do see that the convergence of cloud
computing and the semantic web at some point. I was trying find more
information on "if" and "how" and what would it mean for web experience. I'd
like to hear any opinions on this and the previous question...

> Is 'the cloud' going to enable the semantic web in a paradigm shift? What
would this mean for users?

Smitha Ram
Senior Interaction Designer
Thomson Reuters | www.thomsonreuters.com
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8 Sep 2008 - 10:21am
Anonymous

so, are we going to restart this thread then sans Chrome?

Intel had an awesome demo out there for mashups.
http://mashmaker.intel.com/web/ Watch the Demo. it shows some
excellent examples.

>From what I understand, Cloud Computing is just web-services. Been
around for a long time, but hey... i am only an IA.

If the goal is one big monster database that is really a back-end
feature of data-sources, and not really a front end 'wow' like
re-defining HTML would be.

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9 Sep 2008 - 1:51pm
Marilyn Matty
2008

A not so futuristic scenario - Office, iWork/iLife, Photoshop, etc. all cost
$$$, and spreadsheets, documents, movies, etc. aren't easily accessible on
all devices at all times. The ability to find and categorize information the
web offers, including personal and business information that isn't publicly
available, and access it via a variety of devices, will be a great asset to
businesses and consumers.

The fact that Google launched chrome in many languages opens many
interesting scenarios - China now has more internet users than the US, and
the most mobile phone subscribers in the world. I think the cloud offers
great potential in countries that have large numbers of mobile users that
missed the Web 1.0/2.0 revolution.

Marilyn

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Charusmitha Ram <smitharam at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I have just grasped the idea of "Cloud computing" after reading the
> flurry of discussions about Google Chrome. What does cloud computing mean
> for the Semantic web and how does this connection translate to new
> interaction models? Can anyone think of futuristic scenarios that suggest
> some very compelling experiences?
> Smitha Ram
> Senior Interaction Designer
> Thomson Reuters | www.thomsonreuters.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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11 Sep 2008 - 3:47am
Kontra
2007

> What's the relevance to the 9-5 guy and gal? What will they be able to do
> differently, or better?
>

Mind reading with Google Chrome
http://counternotions.com/2008/09/11/omnibox/

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