Pencil Project

I've been using it for a couple of days now and while I dont feel
it's going to be an integral part of my workflow I do see it being
useful in cross functional teams where other members can contribute
but do not have visio/omnigraffle.

I intend to introduce developers on my team to the app as a way to
get their ideas 'down on paper'. I see the super low barrier to
entry as a way to get team members _involved_ in presentation layer
discussion, thus building consensus through a more interactive
discussion.

I am a little apprehensive that the libraries (aka stencils) reside
on their server but as long as we keep our artifacts generic we'll
avoid and property concerns.

/pauric

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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=31112

I was impressed enough to contact the developer -- the normal community
tools I expect of an open source project were missing from the site. It's
built on Mozilla, using the app-runtime XUL Runner and is a GPL project.
Coming soon it seems to http://code.google.com/p/evoluspencil

I had an immediate need to do some site map / IA work and was willing to
hack in JJG's visual vocabularly. No support for much other than some
generic desktop UI for now. I started a port of the VisVocab to Mozilla
SVG/XBL (a sort of "sprite" or UI ojbect in XUL) way back in '04 --
http://www.surfmind.com/musings/2004/03/11/.

IMHO, the Firefox space has been ripe for a long time.. The newish Canvas
tech is actually way over-rated, the compound DOM is much cooler (see a mix
of SVG, XUL, & HTML visualizing mouse movement
http://www.surfmind.com/masters/screens/the_making_of_a_visualization.html).
I'd hope Pencil uses this type of approach rather than Canvas.

Another new tool I haven't seen referenced here is the AdobeAIR app
(commercial): http://www.balsamiq.com/products/mockups/desktop --
intentionally casual prototypes in "hand drawn style".

-Andy, "Hacking Browsers Since 2001"
http://surfmind.com

Is it?
Can it generate HTML files?
I would love if it can.

And yes, for sure its nice to just have a look at basic IA.

Cheers!!!

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Rafael Schouchana <rafaschou at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> I was playing with this today using the Firefox version. I am a bit
> frustrated because it could generate an html file instead of png. But, it's
> free.
>
> Cheers
>
> 2008/7/7 Dan Saffer <dan at odannyboy.com>:
>
> > Anyone played with this?
> >
> > <http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/>
> >
> > "The Pencil Project's unique mission is to build a free and opensource
> tool
> > for making diagrams and GUI prototyping that everyone can use."
> >
> > Dan
> >
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Currently, the hyperlink is not activated too. However, it has inserted
hyperlink button. Anyone figure out how to activate that hyperlink?

Maybe on placeholder for the next release version.

cheers,
Chan

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Keyur Sorathia <keyurbsorathia at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is it?
> Can it generate HTML files?
> I would love if it can.
>
> And yes, for sure its nice to just have a look at basic IA.
>
> Cheers!!!
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Rafael Schouchana <rafaschou at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > I was playing with this today using the Firefox version. I am a bit
> > frustrated because it could generate an html file instead of png. But,
> it's
> > free.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > 2008/7/7 Dan Saffer <dan at odannyboy.com>:
> >
> > > Anyone played with this?
> > >
> > > <http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/>
> > >
> > > "The Pencil Project's unique mission is to build a free and opensource
> > tool
> > > for making diagrams and GUI prototyping that everyone can use."
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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>
>
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I did some quick mockups a couple of days ago. i think it has a lot
of promise, but the stencil set is just to small for me yet. And I'd
love a way to get some others imported.

I'll continue to check it out, but it's just not enough for me to use yet.

Regards,
Ben

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Dan Saffer <dan at odannyboy.com> wrote:
> Anyone played with this?
>
> <http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/>
>
> "The Pencil Project's unique mission is to build a free and opensource tool
> for making diagrams and GUI prototyping that everyone can use."
>
> Dan
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe
> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines
> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
>

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