Any suggestions for training on MS Expression Blend?

3 Jun 2008 - 3:18pm
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Benjamin Ho
2007

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on companies for training on the MS Expression Blend application?

I've taken a look at the online video tutorial on lynda.com and the MS Expression site, but they don't really have exercises I can follow along.

I liked how Axure.com gave training for their product, but the same idea is not there for MS Expression Blend.

Any help is appreciated!

Merci buckets!
Ben

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3 Jun 2008 - 3:35pm
Pace Koenig
2008

http://totaltraining.com/prod/microsoft/expression.asp could be a good
option.

You can preview the first part of their tutorials with a guest pass as
well, for what it's worth.

- Pace Koenig

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on companies for training
on the MS Expression Blend application?

I've taken a look at the online video tutorial on lynda.com and the MS
Expression site, but they don't really have exercises I can follow
along.

I liked how Axure.com gave training for their product, but the same idea
is not there for MS Expression Blend.

Any help is appreciated!

Merci buckets!
Ben

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3 Jun 2008 - 3:54pm
David Fitzgerald
2008

Our company does Expression training. However, our audience is either
interactive companies we partner with or ISV/Enterprises who have a
creative department with multiple designers. We customize our
curriculum around their specific needs rather than a boilerplate
agenda. Therefore the typical attendee has played around with Blend
and has extensive design tools skills in other products before
venturing into our training. Are you looking just for an individual
class or are you part of a larger team? You may want to check in
with Arturo Toledo http://ux.artu.tv/ who works with the Expression
team to see if they have any training events coming up. I know we
were slated to help out with one prior to Mix08 but not sure if there
are anymore for this year.

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3 Jun 2008 - 4:01pm
David Fitzgerald
2008

Our company does Expression training. However, our audience is either
interactive companies we partner with or ISV/Enterprises who have a
creative department with multiple designers. We customize our
curriculum around their specific needs rather than a boilerplate
agenda. Therefore the typical attendee has played around with Blend
and has extensive design tools skills in other products before
venturing into our training. Are you looking just for an individual
class or are you part of a larger team? You may want to check in
with Arturo Toledo http://ux.artu.tv/ who works with the Expression
team to see if they have any training events coming up. I know we
were slated to help out with one prior to Mix08 but not sure if there
are anymore for this year.

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3 Jun 2008 - 9:37pm
Dave Malouf
2005

I have struggled getting trained in Blend. I have learned some lessons
a long the way. The BIGGEST lesson I have learned is that to use Blend
you have to think like a programmer and you have to realize that any
weeklong training private or public is NOT enough. You have to invest
in a lot of private training and be prepared to find lots of external
resources, or hire consulting to get you through.

Also, Blend is a not a single source/role solution. There are 2 roles
that play into Blend: Designer & Integrator. Designer is the
aesthetics person and flow decider and the Integrator is the logic
connector and in many cases makes the aesthetics and flow come to
life.

DO NOT expect to be able to go into Blend and create click throughts
and have true control over the experience without a programmer
(integrator) stepping into C# or VB to bring everything together,
especially if you are trying to do anything that the folks in Redmond
didn't think you should want to do with it that you will want to do
with it.

more on my blog: http://synapticburn.com/

-- dave

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3 Jun 2008 - 11:02pm
Josh Santangelo
2008

If you buy the Expression Suite, it comes with a DVD of the Total Training
videos. However, they are updating Blend with new features every couple of
months now, so I'm not sure how relevant video training is.

Blend is a weird beast, but it's very powerful and getting better all the
time.

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Benjamin Ho <benoh2 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on companies for training on
> the MS Expression Blend application?
>
> I've taken a look at the online video tutorial on lynda.com and the MS
> Expression site, but they don't really have exercises I can follow along.
>
> I liked how Axure.com gave training for their product, but the same idea is
> not there for MS Expression Blend.
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
> Merci buckets!
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
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4 Jun 2008 - 6:53am
Kristopher Kinlen
2008

Dave is exactly right:
"There are 2 roles that play into Blend: Designer & Integrator"

I have been working in Blend for the last 6 months or so and every
project we do gets a WPF developer to handle the integration and code
behind work for the UI/UX.

There is also a lot of attention that needs to be paid to the way WPF
handles content presentation. There are lots of panels and styles and
resource dictionaries that come into play when doing custom UI's. If
you don't keep things organized your project can quickly become a
mess to work on.

With the release of the new version of Expression Studio Microsoft
has reworked the web presence. There is now an Expression Community
with lots of links to online resources, forums and training.
http://expression.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

A few months ago trying to find good online communities was tough but
things are starting to get better.

I also heard that Adobe might finally be giving the nod to XAML and
integrating some kind of Illustrator to XAML export that is useful
and not just a brute force pipe of vectors to XAML code.

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5 Jun 2008 - 12:26am
Oleg Krupnov
2008

David,

I've read with interest your rant about MS Expression Blend. In this
context, I'd like to ask a question. I'm a novice designer with developer
background and I can't figure out what it is exactly that makes software for
designers distinct from software for developers, the distinction I often
hear people talking about? Can you give examples? Both designer's and
developer's tools seem to have a canvas and a set of tools/widgets to drag
and drop to compose application screens. Is it just the scripting necessary
to wire things up to make static drawings interactive that designers abhor?
What are the alternatives?

Oleg.
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16 Jun 2008 - 1:16pm
Benjamin Ho
2007

Thanks for the responses!

I only took a brief look at the Total Training tutorials - it's on
the Blend website now. They don't seem to have exercises - is that
correct? Or is there too much of a dichotomy that I don't
understand the programming side?

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