Interaction Design in Europe

16 Apr 2008 - 9:47am
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tiagomarques
2008

Hello,

My name is Tiago Marques and I am a new comer to the IxDA mail list. I am currently researching for Interaction Design job opportunities in Europe, and can't help notice how Interaction Design and related job sites are so developed in the States, but how difficult it is proving to find professional opportunities in Europe. On what concerns the USA, that's not surprising - most of the big software, digital entertainment and telecommunication enterprises have arisen in North America, but still... the discrepancy of job posts and positions is impressive.

So, my question. Does anybody know of an European (a more local) web community brother to the IxDA? I'm asking this because most of the events and jobs posted at IxDA are mainly US-based.

Cheers, keep up the fun work,

Tiago Marques

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16 Apr 2008 - 11:00am
Alexander Baxevanis
2007

Hi Tiago,

if you look at:

http://www.ixda.org/local.php

you'll see that a lot of IxDA members (at least those who've bothered
to declare their location) come from Europe. There's also (on the
right sidebar) a list of local group coordinators that you can perhaps
contact for more info about the job market in the country you're
interested in. I can see some coordinators from Italy, Sweden, and UK
(there's actually a F2F meeting in London tomorrow:
http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=27741) and I'm sure I've seen
people around from other countries.

Cheers,
Alex

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Tiago Marques
<hotmaildotiago at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My name is Tiago Marques and I am a new comer to the IxDA mail list. I am currently researching for Interaction Design job opportunities in Europe, and can't help notice how Interaction Design and related job sites are so developed in the States, but how difficult it is proving to find professional opportunities in Europe. On what concerns the USA, that's not surprising - most of the big software, digital entertainment and telecommunication enterprises have arisen in North America, but still... the discrepancy of job posts and positions is impressive.
>
> So, my question. Does anybody know of an European (a more local) web community brother to the IxDA? I'm asking this because most of the events and jobs posted at IxDA are mainly US-based.
>
> Cheers, keep up the fun work,
>
> Tiago Marques
>
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16 Apr 2008 - 12:19pm
Bojhan
2007

Hey,

As far as I know, there are no big European interaction design
communities. Although this discussion list seems flooded with American
job advertisements I don’t see it difficult to find professional
opportunities in Europe.

There are quite some interaction design programs in Europe that have
local communities such as the Master's Programme at Uemea Institue of
Design (Sweden) and the Royal College of Art (London). If you are keen
on finding communities I suggest just searching on your own language for
local communities. The Netherlands has a few communities around
interaction design.

The event calendar of Europe is far from impressive, though there is of
course the European information architecture summit!

Best Regards,

Bojhan Somers

Tiago Marques schreef:
> Hello,
>
> My name is Tiago Marques and I am a new comer to the IxDA mail list. I am currently researching for Interaction Design job opportunities in Europe, and can't help notice how Interaction Design and related job sites are so developed in the States, but how difficult it is proving to find professional opportunities in Europe. On what concerns the USA, that's not surprising - most of the big software, digital entertainment and telecommunication enterprises have arisen in North America, but still... the discrepancy of job posts and positions is impressive.
>
> So, my question. Does anybody know of an European (a more local) web community brother to the IxDA? I'm asking this because most of the events and jobs posted at IxDA are mainly US-based.
>
> Cheers, keep up the fun work,
>
> Tiago Marques
>
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16 Apr 2008 - 5:39pm
Benoît Drouillat
2007

Hi Tiago, *designers interactifs* is the French professional association for interactive/interaction designers, based in Paris. We've started some initiatives for job seekers and every month we give access to a workshop or a conference. Recently we published (in French, English to come) a white paper about interactive design professions and salary surveys.

Benoît Drouillat
Founding president
*designers interactifs*
http://www.designersinteractifs.com

18 Apr 2008 - 1:58am
milan
2005

Salut!

Most communities in Europe are in fact rather national up to now, and do
not clearly separate interaction design from other related disciplines
such as HCI.
It seems there is a need of a European infrastructure - maybe "IxDA
Europe" would be a good solution to coordinate the network of
communities.

Two links for you:

France:
Designers Interactifs http://www.designersinteractifs.com/
ErgoIHM Mailing List http://listes.cru.fr/sympa/info/ergoihm

Germany: User Experience Forum at XING
https://www.xing.com/app/network?op=home;name=userexperience

milan
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18 Apr 2008 - 6:55am
Janna DeVylder
2006

Hi Tiago,

Thanks for posting a great question. You've hit on some issues the IxDA
Board and Local Leaders are aware of and exploring:

How can we build awareness of IxDA outside of the USA through local groups?

How can we best support new and existing local groups that would prefer to
use their local language over English (something Sweden is doing, as an
example)? This question has come up not only for event notifications, but
also discussions on the list.

Local groups do not need to be national, either. We have groups that are
organizing at a national level and city level, as well. There are some
groups just starting up and have not yet put themselves on the local list.
If you don't see something in your area (http://www.ixda.org/local.php), let
me know and we'll see if something is already brewing in your area.

But if it isn't, I encourage you and anyone else to take advantage of this
opportunity and start a local group. Be a part of bringing more presence to
your area. Be a part of shaping how IxDA can best support locations outside
of the US. We have a Local Leaders group that you can tap into to support
you on this endeavor. Contact me or localgroups (at) ixda.org if you're
interested!

Janna

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Tiago Marques <hotmaildotiago at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> So, my question. Does anybody know of an European (a more local) web
> community brother to the IxDA? I'm asking this because most of the events
> and jobs posted at IxDA are mainly US-based.
>
>

18 Apr 2008 - 9:18am
Dave Malouf
2005

I have a question to all the non-USers who are on the list.
Do you think having another list focused on Europe and another on
Asia and another on Latin America, each in a common langague (they
might all be in English, or are there 2 lits for LA, 1 in Spanish and
1 in Portuguese?) would create a space where people outside the US
might be able to discuss IxD without feeling overwhelmed by USer
interests? Is it just a matter of elbow room (space to stretch)? Are
the topics you facing so completely different than what we are facing
in the US?

Alternatively, should we start creating, not regional lists, but
language lists?

Some background on my part, is that when I was managing the lists
here, I resisted "different lists" not out of disrespect of
different peoples, but b/c I felt that we would fragment as a
community of peer designers as I've seen happen with other UX
groups. I was also concerned about redundancy in the content, and
more importantly lost knowledge that remains within one group but
doesn't get passed on to the others.

I believe that we've hit a critical mass in our community (over
8000k subscribers for our announcement and discussion lists 1600 and
6500 respectively) that maybe we can afford a little splitting, in
order to avoid a bigger chaotic split.

I know for me, I'd love to get a sense of what people are thinking.

As for "job postings". The ONLY way to change that is for people
from outside the US to post jobs. Some of the larger companies do
from time to time, but I gather not nearly as much as the
availability of positions (if it is anything like the US right now).

Anyway, discuss!

-- dave

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18 Apr 2008 - 10:39am
Anonymous

Dave,

I've been thinking (albeit only in passing) about this:

What are the possibilities of plugging into Google's (or anyone
else's) translation engines?
Language-specific lists sound good for non-english speakers, but you
don't necessarily want to lose the contribution to the field as there
won't really be much cross-pollination between the lists.

If the list [IxDA Mandarin-Discuss] was created, could we plug the
text through a translator into [IxDA Mandarin-to-English]?
In the first instance it sounds like hellish language matrix that
could give rise to all sorts of communication problems...
But then people would take this into account, I'm sure. If the
alternate language-translation lists were an optional subscription...

Actually no, that probably wouldn't work, would it.

Hmm.

18 Apr 2008 - 4:47am
tiagomarques
2008

Thank you, Milan, Andre and Alexander,

For your quick replies. My impression is similar to Milan's, that Interaction Design in Europe works more in terms of a national context... The northern countries seem to hold an advantage there, with more courses, initiatives and associations in countries the UK, Sweden, Denmark and so forth (some of the people from the former Ivrea Interaction Design Institute have recently founded a new school in Copenhagen, the CIID)... but it could be just my impression.

Thanks for the input, I'll take a closer look at the "Local" section of the IxDa and try to learn about national groups and communities. I'll be visiting London soon, hope to make some contacts then.

Cheers, enjoy the weekend,

Tiago Marques

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18 Apr 2008 - 11:27am
Leandro Alves
2008

In Brasil we have a problem about this. Many designers aren't fluent
in english and can't interact with the actual list. We need a
portuguese-list to exchange their knowledge with the community. I
think that in ixda.org, it could be possible to have sub-lists for
specific languages. So, a member could sign for one or more
languages. I would sign for the spanish, portuguese and english
lists, for example, and maybe I would have more access to knowledge,
than today (only english).

The ideal world is the one like Alexander said: a translation tool
capable on translating the content and make everyone understand each
other. But, for today, at our realtity, I think this other option is
more practical.

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18 Apr 2008 - 3:04pm
Anonymous

Hello everyone,
Cadius, www.cadius.org/english.html, is a Spanish language
usability/IA/HCI community which is really big in Spain to the point
that I would say its members are involved in just about anything IxD
or usability related going on over here, certainly in Madrid.
- I'm sure Cadius has been mentioned before on this list, but I
can't find a reference to it now.

I've thought about starting a local IxDA group here before myself,
but I'm not sure there would be the demand as Cadius has it pretty
much covered with monthly meet-ups, very occasional "laboratorios",
(talks by guest speakers, - Ben Schneiderman and Saul Greenberg were
at the last one I went to); a mailing list and a new interaction
design magazine; Faz.
However, if anyone's interested in a Madrid IxDA meet, let me know!

Alternatively, although I don't go to all the Cadius events, I'd be
happy to post here a summary in English of what's going on if people
were interested in hearing about it?? That might be one way of
sharing different experiences and ideas.

The IxDA Europe idea sounds interesting as a starting point for
information for people moving between countries, wanting an overview
of the European scene etc, particularly if it had the resources to
translate local news, events and papers.

In response to David's question:
"Are the topics you facing so completely different than what we are
facing in the US?"
I'd say that language clearly comes into play in terms of IA, but
the interaction design problems are in fact very similar.

>From what I read on this list, the biggest difference between a
usability practitioner's professional experience in the Bay area say
to a one over here is in terms of the resources available, budget
allocation and acceptance of methodologies. For example, although
there is a lot of interest and demand is growing fast, many
techniques, such as personas, are considered an extra and are by no
way a standard part of a website development.
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In regard to job postings, I guess language and visa restrictions
have a lot to do with why European jobs don't often get posted on
the IxDA list among other things.
For related jobs in Spain see the Cadius mailing list and alzado.org
(Ofertas de empleo); and you can also check infojobs.net (keyword
usabilidad for example). Jobs tend to be based in Madrid or
Barcelona.

Oh and Alexander, the translation engine sounds like a good idea
worth looking into, but I too have my doubts about the quality and
comprehensibility of the results!

Have a good weekend all!

Elizabeth

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18 Apr 2008 - 3:29pm
leneleth
2008

Copenhagen here ;-)

Some jobs in Denmark can be found here:
http://www.sigchi.dk/jobs/index.html

The new CIID Copenhagen institute of Interaction Design is here:
http://ciid.dk/
They are looking for people here:
http://ciid.dk/about/jobs

Once in a while you can find an interaction design job at danish job banks,
like
jobindex.dk or jobzonen.dk

/Lene

> So, my question. Does anybody know of an European (a more local) web
> community brother to the IxDA? I'm asking this because most of the events
> and jobs posted at IxDA are mainly US-based.
>
>

18 Apr 2008 - 3:59pm
jarango
2004

On Apr 18, 2008, at 7:18 AM, David Malouf wrote:

> Alternatively, should we start creating, not regional lists, but
> language lists?

My dos centavos, FWIW...

Most of the language-specific lists I've been on lag sadly behind the
main English lists. They have some value, but it is limited by scope
and reach.

I've been a longtime advocate of getting folks from different cultures
together to help foster the growth of the profession. There is much to
be gained by having diverse points of view represented in this and
other online conversations. Because of this, I feel strongly that
balkanizing conversations by language is the wrong way to go about this.

The cost of entry to the global professional community is to learn to
read / write / speak English well. Get used to it... English is the
lingua franca of our world. (This may change in the future, but for
now it holds.)

I have very little sympathy for people who are uncomfortable with this
notion because of nationalistic or culture-centric POVs.

Cheers,

-- Jorge

18 Apr 2008 - 4:26pm
milan
2005

I agree with Jorge, I think the list should not be split up into
language-specific sub-lists. There are already existing platforms,
it's not the purpose of the list to compete with them by creating
sub-lists. And at least everybody I know here had at least to try to
learn English in school.

The problem I see here in Europe is that there is not really a vivid
exchange between the various national communities, neither is there a
strong connection with IxDA - which is the only organization available
with a really international scope. It's just a bit too ... balkanized
already, over here :-)

So things like conferences, local informal meetings, job postings,
and providing an "entry point" into the international
infrastructure and discussion, this could be something local groups
such as London, Sweden or even Europe could take care of.

--milan

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19 Apr 2008 - 8:59am
Bruno Figueiredo
2007

I think that language specific lists are doomed for failure,
particularly in a such a specific field of knowledge as IxD.
Nowadays, English is more important than ever and it's getting to be
the de facto language for knowledge sharing. If you don't know
english you're sincerely missing out. If you want to jump on the
bandwagon, you really need to learn it.

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