iPhone SDK
7 Mar 2008 - 1:54pm
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So, are any of you excited by the opportunities offered by the SDK
announcements yesterday? Having access to multi-touch, gestures, the
accelerometer, and location-based services—the possibilities for
innovative, or at least unique/interesting/fun interactions has me
salivating. I know nothing about Objective-C, but I sure am tempted
to get my feet wet.
Jack
Jack L. Moffett
Interaction Designer
inmedius
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They make the design.
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At the very least, the iPhone Human Interface Guidelines are available
for reading. You'll need to sign up for a free developer account to
download them and they seem to be pretty swamped right now:
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/
// jeff
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Jack Moffet: "So, are any of you excited by the opportunities offered by the SDK announcements yesterday?"
I'm stoked - but I haven't been able to download it yet. I get a little further each time - but I'm guessing their servers just got hammered yesterday.
Still trying over other hour or so ... Very excited indeed.
B
it's a great thing. too bad you need leopard to use it. tiger is far more
stable - in part because it's had 11 updates to leopard's 3.
On 3/7/08, Brandon E.B. Ward <brandon at pluggd.com> wrote:
>
> Jack Moffet: "So, are any of you excited by the opportunities offered by
> the SDK announcements yesterday?"
>
> I'm stoked - but I haven't been able to download it yet. I get a little
> further each time - but I'm guessing their servers just got hammered
> yesterday.
>
> Still trying over other hour or so ... Very excited indeed.
>
>
> B
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Brandon wrote:
> I'm stoked - but I haven't been able to download it
> yet. I get a little further each time - but I'm guessing
> their servers just got hammered yesterday.
In the meantime, the PDF of the guidelines is also apparently
available by searching Google...
// jeff
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http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/happy-now-bitches.html
I'm in the camp of Fake Steve Jobs, whom I quote here:
"*Happy now, bitches?*
Yeah, we rocked your friggin world, right? I mean 29 June 2007 might
be the day the world changed, but today it just changed again.
BlackBerry is dead. Microsoft is dead. Windows Mobile is dead. Amazon
is dead. Kindle is dead. Nokia is dead. Motorola was already dead but
now they are even more dead. Google's Android is dead. Samsung is
dead. LG is dead. Sony is dead. UTStarcom is dead. We've thrown $100
million into an iFund so people can build iApps to sell on iTunes and
give us 30% of their iMoney. The coming onslaught of new applications
will make iPhone the only smart phone that anyone in the entire world
will ever want to use.
Seriously, folks, it's game over. This announcement today is as big
as the announcement of the original Macintosh in 1984. At airports
all around the world they put flights on hold so that people could
stay in the terminal and watch the news as it was announced. In
Canada they declared a national day of mourning for RIM. It's that
huge. Today, frankly, is a day that will live in the history of our
industry. It's a classic inflection point. Massive disruption.
Schumpeter-esque creative destruction. I am sitting here just
watching the trailer for "Ironman" with the volume cranked on my
stereo and I'm running around going "I ... am ... Ironman ..." in
that weird computer voice. Truly, I am invincible. I rule the world.
I am the greatest human being that ever lived. I feel just like that
friggin Ironman guy, honestly. Bullets cannot pierce my iron skin.
Apple is the greatest company in the world. We rock so hard it's
amazing.
UPDATE: In the list of the dead up above I forgot to mention Palm and
Adobe. They are both also dead. So dead, in fact, that I forgot to
mention them."
The folks at 37Signals had a slightly similar view:
http://tinyurl.com/3aglv6
My personal view ...
Wow!!! ... nothing else needs to be said.
Yes, there are problems with the total vision, but that 10% of
iissues for me aren't a big deal. Why June!!!???!!!! for the love of
G-d, WHY JUNE!!!!???!!!!!
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It still takes me 30 seconds to download the average cnn.com page.
Nytimes? 22 seconds. Wired.com? 15 seconds per page. This is in
Boston, not some hickville place either. If it wasnt for pure inertia
I would switch to a real iNet phone with 3G. But I am Steve's little
bitch and keep taking his beatings and believing he really loves me.
will evans
user experience architect
wkevans4 at gmail.com
617.281.1281
On Mar 7, 2008, at 1:09 PM, David Malouf <dave at ixda.org> wrote:
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Will, are you never near WiFi?
To me the WiFi makes it all worth while.
But more than that, no other OS has the same experience on a browser
(at least not yet and not soon). And in the end, it is the best iPod
I've ever owned. ;)
-- dave
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> BlackBerry is dead. Microsoft is dead. Windows Mobile is dead. Amazon
> is dead. Kindle is dead. Nokia is dead. Motorola was already dead but
> now they are even more dead. Google's Android is dead. Samsung is
> dead. LG is dead. Sony is dead. UTStarcom is dead.
I dont know about others but Nokia sure aint dead. It recently bought
a company called Trolltech that makes C++ toolkit by the names of Qt
for desktops and Qtopia for the mobile world. Its a proven technology
and extensively used for a decade now and what makes it beautiful is
that your application code is same for Windows, Unix and Mac (Yes, Qt
is available on Mac also). To top it all it also has the same toolkit
targetted for Java by the name QT Jambi. It comes with thousands
of programmers who have been programming using it for a decade and
since the toolkit scales from mobiles to desktops seamlessly and from
Windows to Mac to Linux also seamlessely, its one power weapon that
Nokia just acquired. It just needs to be seen how Nokia uses this to
combat Iphone API and Google Android but if I as a developer have to
bet my money I will surely put a large bet on Nokia-Trolltech combine
though I wont ignore Iphone API and Android totally :). Nokia through
Trolltech also gets onto the LiMo (Linux Mobile) platform and I wont
be surprised if symbian gives way to LiMo-Qt combination in future
Nokia devices and that sure will be one hell of a platform to beat :-)
Cheers
Pankaj
buying a cross-platform development framework does not automatically
make you know how to build good software, unfortunately for Nokia.
They were not particularly good at it using Symbian. I don't see how
this acquisition changes that. My Nokia N76 (which I like) has a
HORRIBLE music interface. Browsing and playing are quite obviously 2
separate applications.
For an idea of just how bad it is, just from an organizational
standpoint, here's a look on my mostly abandoned blog:
http://notes.motiontek.com/?p=29
this can easily be replicated in its full badness with QT. Hopefully
will not, but I think the underlying UI framework is the least of
their worries.
MT
On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Pankaj Chawla wrote:
>> BlackBerry is dead. Microsoft is dead. Windows Mobile is dead. Amazon
>> is dead. Kindle is dead. Nokia is dead. Motorola was already dead but
>> now they are even more dead. Google's Android is dead. Samsung is
>> dead. LG is dead. Sony is dead. UTStarcom is dead.
>
> I dont know about others but Nokia sure aint dead. It recently bought
> a company called Trolltech that makes C++ toolkit by the names of Qt
> for desktops and Qtopia for the mobile world. Its a proven technology
> and extensively used for a decade now and what makes it beautiful is
> that your application code is same for Windows, Unix and Mac (Yes, Qt
> is available on Mac also). To top it all it also has the same toolkit
> targetted for Java by the name QT Jambi. It comes with thousands
> of programmers who have been programming using it for a decade and
> since the toolkit scales from mobiles to desktops seamlessly and from
> Windows to Mac to Linux also seamlessely, its one power weapon that
> Nokia just acquired. It just needs to be seen how Nokia uses this to
> combat Iphone API and Google Android but if I as a developer have to
> bet my money I will surely put a large bet on Nokia-Trolltech combine
> though I wont ignore Iphone API and Android totally :). Nokia through
> Trolltech also gets onto the LiMo (Linux Mobile) platform and I wont
> be surprised if symbian gives way to LiMo-Qt combination in future
> Nokia devices and that sure will be one hell of a platform to beat :-)
>
> Cheers
> Pankaj
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While the assessment Dave makes is a little strong (I might go with
very sick, not dead) he is exactly right. But Pankaj, this has very
little to do with coding and languages. This has to do with one of
the most adept market assessments and most elegant strategic moves we
have seen. talk all you want about Apples superior style, technology
and cool factor, but this move into mobile hardware is brilliant.
Apples sniffed out an industry that was divided into two
disfunctional factions. The carriers, who are making the exact same
strategic mistakes they made as long distance providers 20 years ago,
and hardware manufacturers - also repeating old mistakes. The
carriers are still caught up in creating barriers for consumers to
maximize profit. Hand set makers are driving with technology first,
the user second.
The iPhone is fundamentally changing the functional, developmental,
and the business landscape of the mobile phone industry. This is a
fast and remarkably transparent market take over. If you have any
aspirations of being an entrepreneur you should be following this
very closely. It is a lesson in how to own an market. Lastly, and
likely most importantly, pay attention, these kind of changes in the
market always present large opportunities for folks like us.
Mark
On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Pankaj Chawla wrote:
>> BlackBerry is dead. Microsoft is dead. Windows Mobile is dead. Amazon
>> is dead. Kindle is dead. Nokia is dead. Motorola was already dead but
>> now they are even more dead. Google's Android is dead. Samsung is
>> dead. LG is dead. Sony is dead. UTStarcom is dead.
>
> I dont know about others but Nokia sure aint dead. It recently bought
> a company called Trolltech that makes C++ toolkit by the names of Qt
> for desktops and Qtopia for the mobile world. Its a proven technology
> and extensively used for a decade now and what makes it beautiful is
> that your application code is same for Windows, Unix and Mac (Yes, Qt
> is available on Mac also). To top it all it also has the same toolkit
> targetted for Java by the name QT Jambi. It comes with thousands
> of programmers who have been programming using it for a decade and
> since the toolkit scales from mobiles to desktops seamlessly and from
> Windows to Mac to Linux also seamlessely, its one power weapon that
> Nokia just acquired. It just needs to be seen how Nokia uses this to
> combat Iphone API and Google Android but if I as a developer have to
> bet my money I will surely put a large bet on Nokia-Trolltech combine
> though I wont ignore Iphone API and Android totally :). Nokia through
> Trolltech also gets onto the LiMo (Linux Mobile) platform and I wont
> be surprised if symbian gives way to LiMo-Qt combination in future
> Nokia devices and that sure will be one hell of a platform to beat :-)
>
> Cheers
> Pankaj
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Hi Michael,
On 3/8/08, Michael Tuminello <mt at motiontek.com> wrote:
> buying a cross-platform development framework does not automatically
> make you know how to build good software, unfortunately for Nokia.
> They were not particularly good at it using Symbian. I don't see how
> this acquisition changes that. My Nokia N76 (which I like) has a
> HORRIBLE music interface. Browsing and playing are quite obviously 2
> separate applications.
>
> this can easily be replicated in its full badness with QT. Hopefully
> will not, but I think the underlying UI framework is the least of
> their worries.
I 110% agree with you. The only point I was trying to make was that
symbian was a failed development platform. More than the API whats
needed is a good development platform and I think Qt+LiMO will provide
a very powerful development platform. Having fixed that end Nokia can
focus on the interaction design part of the process and if they can get
that right they have a winner. Apple on the other hand have done beautiful
work in the interaction design of Iphone and now it is exposing the API
for Iphone but ultimately the new applications will need to be developed
and to my mind Objective C is the weak link in Apple's armour. I havent
downloaded the SDK yet so I am not sure if any other development
language is supported but if its Objective C only then I will be a lot
worried.
Cheers
Pankaj
First off, those weren't my words.
Second off, Jeez! doesn't anyone have a sense of hyperbole any more?
Of course Nokia and Blackberry are far from Dead, and I would even
say they aren't all that sick either. What they aren't is prepared
for the current war. I would argue though that BB has a better chance
against iPhone (or more accurately is better protected against an
iPhone assault) than Nokia is.
Samsung & Motorola ... Let's just say ... maybe not so much a
hyperbole. ;)
-- dave
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Sorry Dave, apparently I misread your intro...
I spent a few hours this afternoon trying to find an introductory
product that penetrated a 10+ year old market with the same sort of
numbers as the iPhone. I can neither find or think of one.
On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:42 PM, dave malouf wrote:
> First off, those weren't my words.
> Second off, Jeez! doesn't anyone have a sense of hyperbole any more?
>
> Of course Nokia and Blackberry are far from Dead, and I would even
> say they aren't all that sick either. What they aren't is prepared
> for the current war. I would argue though that BB has a better chance
> against iPhone (or more accurately is better protected against an
> iPhone assault) than Nokia is.
>
> Samsung & Motorola ... Let's just say ... maybe not so much a
> hyperbole. ;)
>
> -- dave
>
>
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> Wow!!! ... nothing else needs to be said.
I examine 10 factors that put Apple in an unassailable position in the
mobile platform wars and review the weaknesses of iPhone competitors in:
Who can beat iPhone
2.0?<http://counternotions.com/2008/03/10/iphone2-competitors/>
It's gadget manufacturers vs. system/solution/platform designer all over
again.
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