WAS: Embedded Interaction Design? NOW: Bad Recruiters

6 Jan 2008 - 2:31pm
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david.shaw6@gma...
2004

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Amen brotha! I'm right there with you on the disservice of certain
recruiters. I just went through a period that I was looking for
something, and was inundated with "opportunities" from these
"recruiters". Needless to say, 85% of all emails to me were of this
type. And, one of the the things that really made me angry was the
fact that they saw one skill on my resume that made me a "great" fit
for something such as a Java developer position. Um, hello, did you
NOT look at my resume? Another thing that made me discount most of
these people was the fact I'd get emails that had multiple
misspellings in the copy. Come on people, how can I take you serious
if you can't even spell simple words properly.

</rant>

David

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:20:57, dave malouf <dave at ixda.org> wrote:
> To Pauric's point.
> East coast and Can't find anyone who has this experience out here we
> can hire. We need people who are already doing this work who want to
> move (we will relocate) to Long Island, NY (or NYC with a big
> commute; like I do).
>
> There is lots of people doing medical devices on the east coast, but
> when say lots, not nearly enough to build a substantial IxD for
> hardware community around.
>
> But to your real question, I agree w/ Dan ... Just say it. And no,
> you will still always get recruiters who will call you. I get TONS of
> developer positions b/c I have HTML somewhere on my resume and well
> that means "developer". Or, since I worked for Documentum, I get
> calls for DCTM developers. Recruiters of the worst kind are hacks w/o
> any suffistication who just see you as a commodity like a brick. They
> search for keywords and if the right ones show up you are meat to be
> hunted. (thus the term head hunter). Sorry to all the good recruiters
> on this list, but way way way too many recruiters (especially the
> offshored variety) do the rest of you a REAL disservice and well, it
> tarnishes your good name. You might want to do something about it.
>
> -- dave
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Comments

6 Jan 2008 - 7:47pm
Gloria Petron
2007

I find it annoying when I receive a message from a recruiter that starts off
with "Boy, today is your lucky day, are you going to thankful when I tell
you about* this*!" and ends with, "If you happen to know someone who'd be
good for this position, please send 'em our way." Why, yes, yes I'll do
that! Right away, sir! ...and you are...?

I often receive messages which are nothing more than a collection of copied
& pasted sections, easy to spot because of the differences in formatting.
For example, you get three lines of italicized text followed by 4 bullet
points of text in a different font which repeat what's said in the first
three lines. It's gotten to the point where being able to separate
worthwhile messages from the dreck has become an art form; I've gotten to
where scanning a message for this type of thing takes a fraction of a
second.

I'm pretty sure it goes both ways, though. Heartlessly sending scores of
messages into the abyss for such seemingly minor infractions as crappy
formatting has produced at least one positive side effect: it's heightened
my own awareness of what I put out there. When designing interfaces, I'm
much more sensitive to the presence of marketing vomit, and when sending out
my resume, I take care to ensure my cover letter has been run through the
spell-checker!

8 Jan 2008 - 9:27am
Patricia Garcia
2007

Gosh, you mean when the same recruiter sends me 3 emails in a row, all
the same content with only the position title changed that it wasn't
really personalized to me?

I feel so used.

BTW, I have had to remove or play down much of my programming
experience from 6 years ago as it makes me a perfect candidate every
time for, you guessed it, programming positions, even if my latest
experience and my summary all highlight UX Design.

I prefer a recruiter that meets with me, gets to know me and even if
they don't call me for 6 months, when they do it's for a position
that I was actually asking for, rather than contact me once a week
with another programming opportunity of a lifetime. (Where were all
these opportunities 6 years ago when I was actually looking for
them?)

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8 Jan 2008 - 3:04pm
Benjamin Ho
2007

There's a trade secret in the recruiting business in that it's
sometimes not about the quality of the person but the quantity of
people they present to certain clients. Every recruiting company is
based on this principle - most of them want to just grow their client
base to increase their numbers to "sell us" to their corporate
clients. That's how they make their money.

Some of these agencies operate extremely poorly and really do not
represent the job seekers well at all. In my experience, I actually
did the better job in representing myself having developed certain
other skills in marketing, sales, communication etc.

There is maybe a small percentage of recruiters that actually do
their job properly, by negotiating and acting as a good intermediary.
It's because of this that I don't send my resumes out just because
they ask for it. I actually ask what the opportunity is first before
I give any information out.

A Leadership principle in Discernment.

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