Songza Compare Seeqpod

13 Nov 2007 - 10:26pm
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lisa herrod
2007

Hi all

I think the Songza interface is far more interesting when you compare it
with Seeqpod.com.

Seeqpod has offered a very similar service for quite some time. While Songza
is more visually attractive to me, I think seeqpod is much easier to
interact with and use. I'd be interested to know what you think too.

However, my one major reservation with Seeqpod is that it is Flash based
when it needn't be. On the other hand, Songza is dependant on javascript
being enabled, and is completely unusable/ inaccessible without it.

Both of these issues impact heavily on the user experience and so, I think
the interaction design is severely flawed in both.

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:34:39
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
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wow, I'm simply blown away by the UI. Very distinctive controls,
layout & flow.

I expect we might see more niche search engines also differentiate
with novel/innovative UI designs.
e.g. http://www.kayak.com/moby/ (not a lot going on with style, but
the interaction thinking is good)

Thanks for the link David, I feel like a kid in a candy store.

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13 Nov 2007 - 10:34pm
lisa herrod
2007

Hi all

I think the Songza interface is far more interesting when you compare it
with Seeqpod.com.

Seeqpod has offered a very similar service for quite some time. While Songza
is more visually attractive to me, I think seeqpod is much easier to
interact with and use. I'd be interested to know what you think too.

However, my one major reservation with Seeqpod is that it is Flash based
when it needn't be. On the other hand, Songza is dependant on javascript
being enabled, and is completely unusable/ inaccessible without it.

Both of these issues impact heavily on the user experience and so, I think
the interaction design is severely flawed in both.

That's my 2 cents ;)

Lisa

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: pauric <radiorental at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:34:39
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Songza
To: discuss at ixda.org

wow, I'm simply blown away by the UI. Very distinctive controls,
layout & flow.

I expect we might see more niche search engines also differentiate
with novel/innovative UI designs.
e.g. http://www.kayak.com/moby/ (not a lot going on with style, but
the interaction thinking is good)

Thanks for the link David, I feel like a kid in a candy store.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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14 Nov 2007 - 3:36am
Alexander Baxevanis
2007

Hi Lisa,

I can't really understand what you mean by this. Certainly, relying on
flash/js is an accessibility issue and degrades the user experience of
users that don't have these features enabled, but for the rest of us
it provides a better user experience with more immediate feedback than
a pure HTML implementation.

Regards,
Alex

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On 14 Nov 2007, at 04:34, "lisa herrod" <lisaherrod at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> However, my one major reservation with Seeqpod is that it is Flash
> based
> when it needn't be. On the other hand, Songza is dependant on
> javascript
> being enabled, and is completely unusable/ inaccessible without it.
>
> Both of these issues impact heavily on the user experience and so, I
> think
> the interaction design is severely flawed in both.

14 Nov 2007 - 6:46am
.pauric
2006

Lisa, functionally there appears to be little difference between the
two.

I would disagree (personal opinion obviously!) about the ease of
interaction. My take-away thought about Seeqpod is that most of the
options are up front whereas Songza, for me, did a better job of
defining the primary controls and hide the secondary nice to haves
two layers down e.g.

Seeqpod: 32 immediately clickable controls on the main media page
Songza: 7
(not including clicking on individual tracks. Also, stand to be
corrected on those numbers)

Remember, this is simply a music player

Songza, to me, presents the primary message of the site up front and
places secondary features such as social, playlist controls, etc in
one level.

There's arguments for both approaches, there are some flaws in the
layout for songza such as scrolling. Seeqpod has a very broken flow
in places. Nothing is ever perfect. But if Simplicity was ever a
good design directive then... (o;

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14 Nov 2007 - 8:31am
Dave Malouf
2005

Lisa are you suggesting that any sort of richness makes an interface
severly flawed? I mean you can't do anything rich w/o it. Even a
simple rollover requires some sort of javascript.

As to an comparison of the 2 interfaces. I found lost on Seeqpod.
There was too much going on and very little support for what to do.
Too much reliance on iconography without any text support for those
icons is probabbly my biggest complaint.

Further, in comparing it to Songza I think there is just simply too
much going on with Seeqpod and most of it is unnecessary. I think the
discovery/auto-browse functionality is a complete waste of time as
they know NOTHING about me and don't claim that they will ever know
enough about me to make that intelligent enough to help me the way
for example last.fm does.

But even the "options" features is a bit hard to use and having a
sign-in feels off in comparison.

I agree that the flash the way it is used doesn't seem to offer
anything. They could have done a lot more with it.

I don't think "innaccessibility" is an issue with these sites.
Especially Songza which is meant as a study in Interaction Design.

-- dave

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14 Nov 2007 - 9:05am
.pauric
2006

David: "I don't think "innaccessibility" is an issue with these
sites. Especially Songza which is meant as a study in Interaction
Design."

One could argue that sites that focus on audio might be on special
interest to the visually impaired.

If Songza was an exercise in interface design then I might agree with
you. Interaction, no.

Anyway, I believe songza has dont a good job with high contrast.
Excellent balance of colours with the search results being the only
weak point I can see.

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14 Nov 2007 - 9:24am
Dan Brown
2004

We're doing work for a client who offers similar functionality. Our
initial research offers two possible critiques for Songza (which I
otherwise think is very cool):

1. On the interface side, people think a song will start playing when
you click on it. Exposing the navigation over a song is ingenious, but
a new paradigm for most people, who got used to double-clicking on a
song in iTunes to play it. If you're not used to this approach, you
might not even see the navigation. (On the other hand, this kind of
interface is playful enough where people might grow used to it, and it
is crucial for the "song queue" feature.)

2. On the functionality side, the model offered isn't why people go to
the web. The people we spoke to use the web to discover new music (a
la Pandora) not listen to music they already like, which they probably
own.

Still, it's (a) very simple and clever and (b) not Apple-style, and so
very appealing. :-)

-- Dan

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14 Nov 2007 - 5:08pm
lisa herrod
2007

Just to clarify, I did not and am not suggesting at all that rich interfaces
are flawed.

However, where users are unable to interact with a site because of the way
technology has been designed and implemented, I do believe the Interaction
Design is flawed.

David, I didn't realise Songza is intended to be "a study in interaction
design". Are they focusing on specific elements of Interaction Design and
not others? That wasn't clear in your initial post. Though having said that,
if users are unable to interact with it, surely that has to be a
consideration in determining how effective the ID is?

To put my comments in context, I believe that accessible design should be a
primary consideration during user interface design and interaction design
etc. And I would hate to think that it's acceptable to have an 'Us' and
'Them' mentality in our design practice. This isn't even about accessibility
it's really about user experience and Interaction Design is a huge part of
that, as we all know.

On 15/11/2007, Dan Brown <brownorama at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We're doing work for a client who offers similar functionality. Our
> initial research offers two possible critiques for Songza (which I
> otherwise think is very cool):
>
> 1. On the interface side, people think a song will start playing when
> you click on it. Exposing the navigation over a song is ingenious, but
> a new paradigm for most people, who got used to double-clicking on a
> song in iTunes to play it. If you're not used to this approach, you
> might not even see the navigation. (On the other hand, this kind of
> interface is playful enough where people might grow used to it, and it
> is crucial for the "song queue" feature.)
>
> 2. On the functionality side, the model offered isn't why people go to
> the web. The people we spoke to use the web to discover new music (a
> la Pandora) not listen to music they already like, which they probably
> own.
>
> Still, it's (a) very simple and clever and (b) not Apple-style, and so
> very appealing. :-)
>
> -- Dan
>
>
>
> --
> | work: eightshapes.com
> | book: communicatingdesign.com
> | blog: greenonions.com
> | talk: +1 (301) 801-4850
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> February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA
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