Users and Groups UI

3 Aug 2004 - 12:23pm
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Schomer, Todd
2004

Hello All,

I am looking for examples of "user and groups" UI.

I have a product where I need to be able to view and assign users and
groups. I'd like to be able to click on a user to view which groups they are
in, and add/remove a group in their list. I would also like to be able to
click on a group and see which users are in it, and add/remove users.

Any examples you could throw my way, would be appreciated. I'd like to come
up with something clever, that isn't too clunky.

Schomer

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4 Aug 2004 - 3:12am
Andrei Sedelnikov
2004

Todd,

First thing you have to think about when you're going to find a good
UI solution is who your users are and what tasks do they have. For
example, is the task of managing the groups and users not the main one
and is done rarely, or in opposite: it is one of the core task of the
user, being done everyday (say, like network administrator). Is the
number of users and groups big or not? The same interface simply
cannot work well for all those cases.

- When the number of users/groups is small, and it is enough screen
space, may be you can place all information at once, so the user
doesn't have to click on something
- If the task is a rare one, may be you should not waste space, and
show only group names/user names at the first step, giving enough
hints to users, what they can do with it
- If it is an everyday task, effeciency usually matters a lot. So you
have to optimize the number of clicks and so on ..

So, as you can see, one should be more specific and make more
investigations in order to get the best UI.

greetings,

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 11:23:36 -0700, Schomer, Todd <schomer at extensis.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am looking for examples of "user and groups" UI.
>
> I have a product where I need to be able to view and assign users and
> groups. I'd like to be able to click on a user to view which groups they are
> in, and add/remove a group in their list. I would also like to be able to
> click on a group and see which users are in it, and add/remove users.
>
> Any examples you could throw my way, would be appreciated. I'd like to come
> up with something clever, that isn't too clunky.
>
> Schomer
>
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4 Aug 2004 - 11:48am
Schomer, Todd
2004

Thanks for the feedback and tips, Andrei.

I totally agree that there are variations in terms of how this could be
designed, depending on the factors you noted, below.

I like to start with some examples from other products, if the problem has
been solved before, to evaluate how others have done it, and to test it
against my needs to see how it might work, or how I might further
improve/change it to meet my needs.

If any of you can think of a product that has some user-and-group UI, I
would appreciate hearing about it, so I could check it out.

What I need to come up with needs to handle a lot of users and groups. I
would like to be able to click on a user and see which groups they are in,
and click on a group to see which users are in it. I would like to drag and
drop between these views/lists to assign users/groups. There will also need
to be a permissions section, which allows the admin to specify what
permissions each user or group has.

BTW, what's the policy on attachments for this list? Is it okay to send out
a JPEG screenshot, if it's not too large, or is this a no-attachment list?

Thanks again, all.

Schomer

> From: Andrei Sedelnikov <usabilist at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:12:53 +0200
> To: "Schomer, Todd" <schomer at extensis.com>
> Cc: <discuss at interactiondesigners.com>
> Subject: Re: [ID Discuss] Users and Groups UI
>
> Todd,
>
> First thing you have to think about when you're going to find a good
> UI solution is who your users are and what tasks do they have. For
> example, is the task of managing the groups and users not the main one
> and is done rarely, or in opposite: it is one of the core task of the
> user, being done everyday (say, like network administrator). Is the
> number of users and groups big or not? The same interface simply
> cannot work well for all those cases.
>
> - When the number of users/groups is small, and it is enough screen
> space, may be you can place all information at once, so the user
> doesn't have to click on something
> - If the task is a rare one, may be you should not waste space, and
> show only group names/user names at the first step, giving enough
> hints to users, what they can do with it
> - If it is an everyday task, effeciency usually matters a lot. So you
> have to optimize the number of clicks and so on ..
>
> So, as you can see, one should be more specific and make more
> investigations in order to get the best UI.
>
> greetings,
>
>
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 11:23:36 -0700, Schomer, Todd <schomer at extensis.com>
> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am looking for examples of "user and groups" UI.
>>
>> I have a product where I need to be able to view and assign users and
>> groups. I'd like to be able to click on a user to view which groups they are
>> in, and add/remove a group in their list. I would also like to be able to
>> click on a group and see which users are in it, and add/remove users.
>>
>> Any examples you could throw my way, would be appreciated. I'd like to come
>> up with something clever, that isn't too clunky.
>>
>> Schomer
>>
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>
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4 Aug 2004 - 2:50pm
Martin Tschofen
2004

Take a look at Mac OS X Server admin tool or AppleShare IP 6 admin tool as
well as the Microsoft Server solutions...martin

Martin Tschofen

On 8/4/04 12:48 PM, "Schomer, Todd" <schomer at extensis.com> wrote:

> If any of you can think of a product that has some user-and-group UI, I
> would appreciate hearing about it, so I could check it out.

4 Aug 2004 - 10:36pm
Mark Canlas
2003

When you say "users and groups", I'm abstracting the task into "items and
categories". And a program that I love that does great items and categories
management is Microsoft Outlook 2003.

You can assign each item (mail, contacts, tasks, etc.) to multiple
categories (groups). Clicking on the item displays what categories the item
belongs to.

Also, there's a macromanagement view of viewing the items by groups. If you
click on the group heading, you can do an action that will effect the entire
group. I think you can also drag items into that category and make them a
part of that category.

I dunno, hard to explain if you haven't used Outlook 2003. But very easy and
very useful.

Hope that helps.

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:48 PM
To: discuss at interactiondesigners.com
Subject: Re: [ID Discuss] Users and Groups UI

Thanks for the feedback and tips, Andrei.

I totally agree that there are variations in terms of how this could be
designed, depending on the factors you noted, below.

I like to start with some examples from other products, if the problem has
been solved before, to evaluate how others have done it, and to test it
against my needs to see how it might work, or how I might further
improve/change it to meet my needs.

If any of you can think of a product that has some user-and-group UI, I
would appreciate hearing about it, so I could check it out.

What I need to come up with needs to handle a lot of users and groups. I
would like to be able to click on a user and see which groups they are in,
and click on a group to see which users are in it. I would like to drag and
drop between these views/lists to assign users/groups. There will also need
to be a permissions section, which allows the admin to specify what
permissions each user or group has.

BTW, what's the policy on attachments for this list? Is it okay to send out
a JPEG screenshot, if it's not too large, or is this a no-attachment list?

Thanks again, all.

Schomer

> From: Andrei Sedelnikov <usabilist at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:12:53 +0200
> To: "Schomer, Todd" <schomer at extensis.com>
> Cc: <discuss at interactiondesigners.com>
> Subject: Re: [ID Discuss] Users and Groups UI
>
> Todd,
>
> First thing you have to think about when you're going to find a good
> UI solution is who your users are and what tasks do they have. For
> example, is the task of managing the groups and users not the main one
> and is done rarely, or in opposite: it is one of the core task of the
> user, being done everyday (say, like network administrator). Is the
> number of users and groups big or not? The same interface simply
> cannot work well for all those cases.
>
> - When the number of users/groups is small, and it is enough screen
> space, may be you can place all information at once, so the user
> doesn't have to click on something
> - If the task is a rare one, may be you should not waste space, and
> show only group names/user names at the first step, giving enough
> hints to users, what they can do with it
> - If it is an everyday task, effeciency usually matters a lot. So you
> have to optimize the number of clicks and so on ..
>
> So, as you can see, one should be more specific and make more
> investigations in order to get the best UI.
>
> greetings,
>
>
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 11:23:36 -0700, Schomer, Todd <schomer at extensis.com>
> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am looking for examples of "user and groups" UI.
>>
>> I have a product where I need to be able to view and assign users and
>> groups. I'd like to be able to click on a user to view which groups they
are
>> in, and add/remove a group in their list. I would also like to be able to
>> click on a group and see which users are in it, and add/remove users.
>>
>> Any examples you could throw my way, would be appreciated. I'd like to
come
>> up with something clever, that isn't too clunky.
>>
>> Schomer
>>
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4 Aug 2004 - 10:51pm
Jerry John
2004

Todd,

i really think the first step would be defining the task for these users and
their group. You should start by categorizing people in this group, say for
example - by the tasks they have to perform, or but other logical fashion
you seem is right .. this doesn't really have to reflect in your UI but its
sure is a good starting point [make some addition space for the new entries
... coz at any give point in time, this could be an ever expanding list].
hope this helps ...

Jerry John
User Experience Architect
NetContinuum Pvt Ltd
+9180 9886453779

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[mailto:discuss-interactiondesigners.com-bounces at lists.interactiondesign
ers.com]On Behalf Of Andrei Sedelnikov
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:43 PM
To: Schomer, Todd
Cc: discuss at interactiondesigners.com
Subject: Re: [ID Discuss] Users and Groups UI

Todd,

First thing you have to think about when you're going to find a good
UI solution is who your users are and what tasks do they have. For
example, is the task of managing the groups and users not the main one
and is done rarely, or in opposite: it is one of the core task of the
user, being done everyday (say, like network administrator). Is the
number of users and groups big or not? The same interface simply
cannot work well for all those cases.

- When the number of users/groups is small, and it is enough screen
space, may be you can place all information at once, so the user
doesn't have to click on something
- If the task is a rare one, may be you should not waste space, and
show only group names/user names at the first step, giving enough
hints to users, what they can do with it
- If it is an everyday task, effeciency usually matters a lot. So you
have to optimize the number of clicks and so on ..

So, as you can see, one should be more specific and make more
investigations in order to get the best UI.

greetings,

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 11:23:36 -0700, Schomer, Todd <schomer at extensis.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am looking for examples of "user and groups" UI.
>
> I have a product where I need to be able to view and assign users and
> groups. I'd like to be able to click on a user to view which groups they
are
> in, and add/remove a group in their list. I would also like to be able to
> click on a group and see which users are in it, and add/remove users.
>
> Any examples you could throw my way, would be appreciated. I'd like to
come
> up with something clever, that isn't too clunky.
>
> Schomer
>
> _______________________________________________
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