Patriarchs of the Design Family (was: New Uber Design Org)

19 Nov 2003 - 10:21am
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Challis Hodge
2003

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What do folks think of this?

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Aren't there more than two design disciplines?
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I tossed the above out to see what thoughts might emerge. Interesting that
some folks came back to defend the orgs. I surely wasn't suggesting that
these orgs should be consulting with us before moving forward.

There were some other topics that I hoped would emerge though:

1. Are these two disciplines, graphic and industrial design, the roots of
all design disciplines? Did they spawn from architecture?

2. Some of us are so distant from these organizations that they are
meaningless. Why is this so? As a result can they adequately speak for all
of design? Can design have one voice anyway?

Any thoughts...?

-challis
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19 Nov 2003 - 11:10am
Beth Mazur
2003

> ... Interesting that some folks came back to defend the orgs.

Interesting that you see it as defense of the orgs.

> 1. Are these two disciplines, graphic and industrial design, the roots of
> all design disciplines?

Probably not. But they are the most established.

> 2. Some of us are so distant from these organizations that they are
> meaningless.

I'm distant from the UN, but I'm not sure that makes it meaningless.
But if I want to be a player on the world stage in politics, I
probably need to figure out how to make my relationship with it
more meaningful.

> As a result can they adequately speak for all
> of design? Can design have one voice anyway?

No, design probably can't have "one" voice. But there are voices
that have more or less impact.

Beth Mazur
IDblog: http://idblog.org

20 Nov 2003 - 10:10am
Alain D. M. G. ...
2003

Hello!

> >
> >1. Are these two disciplines, graphic and industrial design, the
> >roots of all design disciplines? Did they spawn from architecture?
> >

I suppose that you could also argue that historically speaking they
also came from the different crafts and trades which made household
objects, back in the days when those objects served in homes which were
also offices and vice versa.

For instance, cabinet makers made the desk forms which are directly and
indirectly behind the desktop metaphor or our systems. In the 2nd half
of the 18th century there was a spurt in the variety of desk forms and
the built-in gadgets that often came with "mechanical" desks. Do you
want real usability or more features? Artisans designed and rushed to
the market one disappearing gear-driven accessory laden desk after the
other. Except for the "automatic" sliders of some secretary desks and
some slant top desks, all these innovations died out during the the
19th century, because they required too much attention by mechanics.

So, on the whole you have a good example here of the ups and downs of
interaction design in a few generations of cabinet making, a discipline
not quite the same as architecture or thr graphic arts.

Alain V.

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