Fix screen and more than a screen of text: Should Ipaginate vertically or horizontally?

31 Aug 2007 - 12:02pm
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Marijke Rijsberman
2004

I've tested TV-based services where the left-right paging approach worked
well. This could have been a consequence of the fact that the entire
interface was based on a left-right paradigm. Essentially nothing moved up
or down. That may be the determining factor.

Marijke

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Stew
Dean
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:21 AM
To: discuss at ixda.org
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Fix screen and more than a screen of text: Should
Ipaginate vertically or horizontally?

Hi,

This is one of those 'pattern' issues.

I'm setting out interaction styles for a TV based service and I'm
covering scenarios where there is quite a bit of text (given that
we're also saying 'the less text the better). From a usability point
of view I know I'm goig to say 'don't put text in a scrolling box'
(fine for T+Cs but not for help text or stuff you want folks to read).

So...

The alternatives is you have 'pages' of text which, using the remote
control, you page through. So the text may be 4 pages (that's not much
text but the font size is nice and chunky). What I'm trying to
determine, without having time to do user testing etc, is if the page
should be navigated 'left and right' or 'up and down'. I'm focused
upon arrow keys, select and back key to drive the experience and have
the user not have to try and find buttons they don't normaly use so
don't worry about other buttons. We don't have a page up / page down
button like some services.

Anyone had experience with this. My playstation 3 has scrolling text
boxes, but this stuff is just for T+Cs.

So left and right or up and down - thoughts?

--
Stewart Dean
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3 Sep 2007 - 5:11am
Stew Dean
2007

Thanks Marijke

The problem is there are two forms of main navigation on the service.
One uses left and right to move between screens and the other uses a
'grid' system where left and right moves you around a screen.

On the sevice it's self there are already scrolling boxes (up and down
are the only keys free to use).

Channel Up and Down are used to page up and down both in text and in
lists. It's not that intuitive but, for now, I'm going to ignore that
and that I think it's bad usability and instead go for consistancy
(which is a real poor get out cause of bad usability I know).

In some ways I have my hands tied as I'm working with a third party
solution that has some weird and wonderful interface solutions that
work for the tasks it aims to do but doesnt think beyond it's imediate
goals.

It's been interesting to explore the different potential solutions
different platforms use.

Cheers

Stewart Dean

On 31/08/07, Marijke Rijsberman <marijke at interfacility.com> wrote:
> I've tested TV-based services where the left-right paging approach worked
> well. This could have been a consequence of the fact that the entire
> interface was based on a left-right paradigm. Essentially nothing moved up
> or down. That may be the determining factor.
>
> Marijke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Stew
> Dean
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:21 AM
> To: discuss at ixda.org
> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Fix screen and more than a screen of text: Should
> Ipaginate vertically or horizontally?
>
> Hi,
>
> This is one of those 'pattern' issues.
>
> I'm setting out interaction styles for a TV based service and I'm
> covering scenarios where there is quite a bit of text (given that
> we're also saying 'the less text the better). From a usability point
> of view I know I'm goig to say 'don't put text in a scrolling box'
> (fine for T+Cs but not for help text or stuff you want folks to read).
>
> So...
>
> The alternatives is you have 'pages' of text which, using the remote
> control, you page through. So the text may be 4 pages (that's not much
> text but the font size is nice and chunky). What I'm trying to
> determine, without having time to do user testing etc, is if the page
> should be navigated 'left and right' or 'up and down'. I'm focused
> upon arrow keys, select and back key to drive the experience and have
> the user not have to try and find buttons they don't normaly use so
> don't worry about other buttons. We don't have a page up / page down
> button like some services.
>
> Anyone had experience with this. My playstation 3 has scrolling text
> boxes, but this stuff is just for T+Cs.
>
> So left and right or up and down - thoughts?
>
> --
> Stewart Dean
> ________________________________________________________________
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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Stewart Dean

3 Sep 2007 - 8:36am
Håkan Reis
2006

Im not fully clear what you have as navigation but I will do a few
assumptions:

The interesting part is what buttons you use when you select items and what
you use when navigate. I would try to use the selection keys (most often
up/down) for pagination (as I suppose you do not have both navigation and
selection in the text view).

--
Håkan Reis
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On 9/3/07, Stew Dean <stewdean at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Marijke
>
> The problem is there are two forms of main navigation on the service.
> One uses left and right to move between screens and the other uses a
> 'grid' system where left and right moves you around a screen.
>
> On the sevice it's self there are already scrolling boxes (up and down
> are the only keys free to use).
>
> Channel Up and Down are used to page up and down both in text and in
> lists. It's not that intuitive but, for now, I'm going to ignore that
> and that I think it's bad usability and instead go for consistancy
> (which is a real poor get out cause of bad usability I know).
>
> In some ways I have my hands tied as I'm working with a third party
> solution that has some weird and wonderful interface solutions that
> work for the tasks it aims to do but doesnt think beyond it's imediate
> goals.
>
> It's been interesting to explore the different potential solutions
> different platforms use.
>
> Cheers
>
> Stewart Dean
>
>
>
> On 31/08/07, Marijke Rijsberman <marijke at interfacility.com> wrote:
> > I've tested TV-based services where the left-right paging approach
> worked
> > well. This could have been a consequence of the fact that the entire
> > interface was based on a left-right paradigm. Essentially nothing moved
> up
> > or down. That may be the determining factor.
> >
> > Marijke
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> > [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
> Stew
> > Dean
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:21 AM
> > To: discuss at ixda.org
> > Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Fix screen and more than a screen of text:
> Should
> > Ipaginate vertically or horizontally?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is one of those 'pattern' issues.
> >
> > I'm setting out interaction styles for a TV based service and I'm
> > covering scenarios where there is quite a bit of text (given that
> > we're also saying 'the less text the better). From a usability point
> > of view I know I'm goig to say 'don't put text in a scrolling box'
> > (fine for T+Cs but not for help text or stuff you want folks to read).
> >
> > So...
> >
> > The alternatives is you have 'pages' of text which, using the remote
> > control, you page through. So the text may be 4 pages (that's not much
> > text but the font size is nice and chunky). What I'm trying to
> > determine, without having time to do user testing etc, is if the page
> > should be navigated 'left and right' or 'up and down'. I'm focused
> > upon arrow keys, select and back key to drive the experience and have
> > the user not have to try and find buttons they don't normaly use so
> > don't worry about other buttons. We don't have a page up / page down
> > button like some services.
> >
> > Anyone had experience with this. My playstation 3 has scrolling text
> > boxes, but this stuff is just for T+Cs.
> >
> > So left and right or up and down - thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > Stewart Dean
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
> > To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
> > List Guidelines ............ http://beta.ixda.org/guidelines
> > List Help .................. http://beta.ixda.org/help
> > Unsubscribe ................ http://beta.ixda.org/unsubscribe
> > Questions .................. list at ixda.org
> > Home ....................... http://beta.ixda.org
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> ________________________________________________________________
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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4 Sep 2007 - 11:38pm
Dante Murphy
2006

Stew-

It makes sense to me that you should use left/right for navigation within your chapter, and use up/down to navigate to other control menus. This is the metaphor of many interactive DVDs, especially those designed for children.

Conversely, my DVR does the opposite...left/right to drill into a menu structure, and up/down to select within a menu. I find this far less intuitive, and suppose it's simply a forced constraint of on-screen programming for a complex system.

Dante

________________________________

From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com on behalf of Stew Dean
Sent: Fri 8/31/2007 12:21 PM
To: discuss at ixda.org
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Fix screen and more than a screen of text: Should Ipaginate vertically or horizontally?

Hi,

This is one of those 'pattern' issues.

I'm setting out interaction styles for a TV based service and I'm
covering scenarios where there is quite a bit of text (given that
we're also saying 'the less text the better). From a usability point
of view I know I'm goig to say 'don't put text in a scrolling box'
(fine for T+Cs but not for help text or stuff you want folks to read).

So...

The alternatives is you have 'pages' of text which, using the remote
control, you page through. So the text may be 4 pages (that's not much
text but the font size is nice and chunky). What I'm trying to
determine, without having time to do user testing etc, is if the page
should be navigated 'left and right' or 'up and down'. I'm focused
upon arrow keys, select and back key to drive the experience and have
the user not have to try and find buttons they don't normaly use so
don't worry about other buttons. We don't have a page up / page down
button like some services.

Anyone had experience with this. My playstation 3 has scrolling text
boxes, but this stuff is just for T+Cs.

So left and right or up and down - thoughts?

--
Stewart Dean
________________________________________________________________
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