Anybody interested in an Agile+UCD best practice sharing session in the SF Area in July?

10 Jun 2007 - 7:11pm
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Andrew Sandler
2006

Hi everyone -
My name is Andrew Sandler, and I manage the User Interface Design team
at Salesforce.com. Last October we made an organizational-wide switch to
Agile Development Methodologies, based mainly on Scrum. We did two small
releases that were "finished" under ADM, and we're wrapping up our first
end-to-end Agile release very soon. As part of my education, I've had a
number of interesting conversations with people on and off this list. The
more I discussed Design and Agile, the more I realized that there are a
number of best practices for development, but less for design. To that end,
I'm volunteering to host a day-long working session for design practitioners
(UI, IA, Usability, etc.) at our offices in San Mateo at the end of July.
This isn't intended to be a gripe session (although I'm sure we can fit one
in), but rather a sharing of what works for you in your company. Any
non-proprietary artifacts and deliverables are welcome. I'm assuming that
we'd have an IA / Design track, and a Usability track but I'm open to any
great ideas. Anybody interested?

Thanks,

Andrew Sandler
Manager, UI Design
Salesforce.com
asandler at salesforce.com

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10 Jun 2007 - 7:43pm
Jarod Tang
2007

Hi Andrew Sandler:
you through out a interesting topic, which was dicussed in the mail list
some time ago. i can present some ideas though cant join ining your
session.

The more I discussed Design and Agile, the more I realized that there are a
> number of best practices for development, but less for design.
>
this is true, some time we mix the software design or ui design with the
interaction design, which cost us a lot of time. nearly all agile
development process addressed the software design instead of ixd.
and on the other hand, some designer, such as cooper, give suggestions as
design before programming(design first), which try to fix the problem of
blind developing, but there's some critisize such as (which is also a
interesting link for ixd vs agile dicussion):
http://www.robbyonrails.com/articles/2006/08/30/agile-interaction-design

for me this points looks like this
1. the human's coginitive is iterative, which means we cant see every thing
before some try and fix (need agile)
2. if we let somethings un-clear , we may keep the big risk(need design
before software developing)
the agile and interaction developing should have a balance points, ;-),
which lie's at the Brooks's great contribution:
Conceptual Integraty
Means that the related guys come to the point that they know what's the
thing to be build though they may not very clear about every detail. from
here, we can merge the agile and interaction design more comfortably.
1. design to get the integrate concept (interated), after that development
can start (agile programming, such as xp try to ignore this , ;-) )
2. interate to implement the designed part, to test it (by focus group of
user's feedback)
3. go back to 1 if required

Cheers
-- Jarod

On 6/11/07, Andrew Sandler <andrew.sandler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone -
> My name is Andrew Sandler, and I manage the User Interface Design team
> at Salesforce.com. Last October we made an organizational-wide switch to
> Agile Development Methodologies, based mainly on Scrum. We did two small
> releases that were "finished" under ADM, and we're wrapping up our first
> end-to-end Agile release very soon. As part of my education, I've had a
> number of interesting conversations with people on and off this list. The
> more I discussed Design and Agile, the more I realized that there are a
> number of best practices for development, but less for design. To that
> end,
> I'm volunteering to host a day-long working session for design
> practitioners
> (UI, IA, Usability, etc.) at our offices in San Mateo at the end of July.
> This isn't intended to be a gripe session (although I'm sure we can fit
> one
> in), but rather a sharing of what works for you in your company. Any
> non-proprietary artifacts and deliverables are welcome. I'm assuming that
> we'd have an IA / Design track, and a Usability track but I'm open to any
> great ideas. Anybody interested?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew Sandler
> Manager, UI Design
> Salesforce.com
> asandler at salesforce.com
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11 Jun 2007 - 7:00am
Adrian Howard
2005

On 11 Jun 2007, at 01:11, Andrew Sandler wrote:
[snip]
> Any
> non-proprietary artifacts and deliverables are welcome. I'm
> assuming that
> we'd have an IA / Design track, and a Usability track but I'm open
> to any
> great ideas. Anybody interested?
[snip]

Very interested but, alas, live the other side of the pond.

Would you mind me cross-posting this to agile-usability? I would
imagine there would be some folk there who might be interested.

Adrian

3 Jul 2007 - 6:34pm
Andrew Sandler
2006

Hi all -
Based on a number of interested responses, we're assembling our agenda
for the day. I looks like we're going to be moving it to August, to account
for existing scheduling conflicts for a number of our design peers in the
area. More details will be coming soon. I'm really excited to meet you and
share what's working with Agile and UCD.

Andrew

On 6/10/07, Andrew Sandler <andrew.sandler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone -
> My name is Andrew Sandler, and I manage the User Interface Design team
> at Salesforce.com. Last October we made an organizational-wide switch to
> Agile Development Methodologies, based mainly on Scrum. We did two small
> releases that were "finished" under ADM, and we're wrapping up our first
> end-to-end Agile release very soon. As part of my education, I've had a
> number of interesting conversations with people on and off this list. The
> more I discussed Design and Agile, the more I realized that there are a
> number of best practices for development, but less for design. To that end,
> I'm volunteering to host a day-long working session for design practitioners
> (UI, IA, Usability, etc.) at our offices in San Mateo at the end of July.
> This isn't intended to be a gripe session (although I'm sure we can fit one
> in), but rather a sharing of what works for you in your company. Any
> non-proprietary artifacts and deliverables are welcome. I'm assuming that
> we'd have an IA / Design track, and a Usability track but I'm open to any
> great ideas. Anybody interested?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew Sandler
> Manager, UI Design
> Salesforce.com
> asandler at salesforce.com
>

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