What would you do different ... ? (Google Gears)

30 May 2007 - 8:27pm
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Dave Malouf
2005

Google Gears was just released as a beta.

What is it?

It is a browser extension (Open Source) for both Firefox and IE to allow
offline functionality through a JavaScript API. Adobe, Opera, Mozilla are
some of the co-sponsors of the project.

If you use (or want to use to check this out) Google Reader they have
integrated Gears so that you can read your last 2000 messages offline once
installed.

Anyway, what wouuld you do to your web app if you could be offline?

- dave

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31 May 2007 - 12:16pm
Volker Gersabeck
2007

if you're using gmail for example, with gears you could read your emails
offline or write some mails while you're on a plane. You could have your
(google) calendar with you all the time, and so on. If you take such
applications, and their number will grow, it really makes sense to have an
offline mode. And in case you use wordpress or alike, you could write your
next blog entry while you're sitting in a train on your way to work. Or if
you're using a wiki you could modify the pages offline and synch them the
next time you're online.

So I think there are a lot of web-applications that can make use of gears
(or dojo offline toolkit, which is similar).

Cheers,
Volker

On 5/30/07, Dave Malouf <dave at synapticburn.com> wrote:
>
> Google Gears was just released as a beta.
>
> What is it?
>
> It is a browser extension (Open Source) for both Firefox and IE to allow
> offline functionality through a JavaScript API. Adobe, Opera, Mozilla are
> some of the co-sponsors of the project.
>
> If you use (or want to use to check this out) Google Reader they have
> integrated Gears so that you can read your last 2000 messages offline once
> installed.
>
> Anyway, what wouuld you do to your web app if you could be offline?
>
> - dave
>
> ___
> David Malouf
> dave (at) synapticburn.com
> http://synapticburn.com/
> http://ixda.org/
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31 May 2007 - 9:15pm
Dave Malouf
2005

Here's my problem w/ these so called "offline" systems I've seen
thus far. Please tell me if I'm just "not getting it".

You have to go to the site, "turn on" the offline functionality at
least in the case of google reader and then leave your browser open.

If you close your browser you can't get back to the application
while offline. What's that about. if it is an application and not a
web site then I should always be able to get to it, no? I mean I can
always get to Outlook? Word? Excel? So why not Google Docs, Reader,
Spreadsheets, Gmail?

I especially find this problem MOST annoying in Gmail Mobile. Which
IS an installed application, but you still can't do anything
offline.

Things I REALLY want there include:
Being able to start writing a message
Save to draft
Access a draft
Read email
Oh!!! and my addressbook should ALWAYS be local. The time it takes to
load the addressbook is insanely slow (yes, I don't have 3G/EVDO).

but back to Gears ... The fact that I can't sync down my feeds in
Reader and then move on to another page, restart my computer and then
in flight start it up and go to Reader and read it has always been a
big downfall for me of these so-called "offline" browser
technologies.

Shoot! Gears is a .exe file that I'm installing. I'd expect more
than what I can do w/ a flash based client for something like that.

-- dave

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31 May 2007 - 11:24pm
Volker Gersabeck
2007

i understand your problem and just gave it a try myself. I installed google
gears, loaded google reader, set up offline mode, and restarted firefox
while being offline. Using my session manager in firefox and google gears i
was able to reopen google reader and read all my previously downloaded
feeds.

As usually all your html and javascript is stored in the browser cache
anyway it only has to be reloaded when you start your browser. At least in
firefox this is no problem and having a session manager activated even my
tabs were partially restored. What google gears now added is the ability to
store also your data in some kind of a cache to reload them while being
offline. Once gmail has such offline support i see no problem in writing
your mails offline. ok, what could be added to a browser would be some
support to reload such an application although you closed the tab. This
could be some kind of favorite apps that are permanently kept in cache in
contrast to your favorite web pages.

I guess in the next version of firefox this might be possible (just google
for "firefox offline" and you'll find a lot of blog entries around this). So
let's see what they will come up with.

Volker

On 5/31/07, David Malouf <dave at ixda.org> wrote:
>
> Here's my problem w/ these so called "offline" systems I've seen
> thus far. Please tell me if I'm just "not getting it".
>
> You have to go to the site, "turn on" the offline functionality at
> least in the case of google reader and then leave your browser open.
>
> If you close your browser you can't get back to the application
> while offline. What's that about. if it is an application and not a
> web site then I should always be able to get to it, no? I mean I can
> always get to Outlook? Word? Excel? So why not Google Docs, Reader,
> Spreadsheets, Gmail?
>
> I especially find this problem MOST annoying in Gmail Mobile. Which
> IS an installed application, but you still can't do anything
> offline.
>
> Things I REALLY want there include:
> Being able to start writing a message
> Save to draft
> Access a draft
> Read email
> Oh!!! and my addressbook should ALWAYS be local. The time it takes to
> load the addressbook is insanely slow (yes, I don't have 3G/EVDO).
>
> but back to Gears ... The fact that I can't sync down my feeds in
> Reader and then move on to another page, restart my computer and then
> in flight start it up and go to Reader and read it has always been a
> big downfall for me of these so-called "offline" browser
> technologies.
>
> Shoot! Gears is a .exe file that I'm installing. I'd expect more
> than what I can do w/ a flash based client for something like that.
>
> -- dave
>
>
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>
>
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