Patterns vs. Designs

12 Apr 2007 - 11:20am
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Christopher Fahey
2005

> I'm torn. On one hand, the beauty of calling it a pattern, of
> encompassing it with a name (regardless of how difficult it
> is to get to that name), is that the community can refer to
> that specific interaction instance.

Maybe what we need is a library/wiki chock-full of specific UI design
implementations, tagged with a top-level fixed vocabulary of major
pattern names.

So the example that started this thread would have it's own unique
entry, and would be tagged with top-level "Accordion", and "Extras On
Demand".

-Cf

Christopher Fahey
____________________________
Behavior
http://www.behaviordesign.com
me: http://www.graphpaper.com

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12 Apr 2007 - 2:55pm
Janna DeVylder
2006

>
> Maybe what we need is a library/wiki chock-full of specific UI design
> implementations, tagged with a top-level fixed vocabulary of major
> pattern names.

A pattern-pedia? (sorry, couldn't resist.)

But seriously... a shared, community-built library. I like it. But it makes
me wonder... how many people are creating organization-specific libraries to
inform their work, or using public-facing libraries (a la Yahoo), or a
combination of both? And how would/could that internal practice translate
into this community-built library?

janna

12 Apr 2007 - 3:14pm
Thomas Vander Wal
2004

Clay Shirky is leading something along these lines with the
Moderation Strategies wiki
http://social.itp.nyu.edu/shirky/wiki/?n=Main.PatternLanguage

USC Annenberg School has something along these lines, but it was all
text as well.

ATB,
Thomas

On 4/12/07, Christopher Fahey <chris.fahey at behaviordesign.com> wrote:
> > I'm torn. On one hand, the beauty of calling it a pattern, of
> > encompassing it with a name (regardless of how difficult it
> > is to get to that name), is that the community can refer to
> > that specific interaction instance.
>
> Maybe what we need is a library/wiki chock-full of specific UI design
> implementations, tagged with a top-level fixed vocabulary of major
> pattern names.
>
> So the example that started this thread would have it's own unique
> entry, and would be tagged with top-level "Accordion", and "Extras On
> Demand".
>
> -Cf
>
> Christopher Fahey
> ____________________________
> Behavior
> http://www.behaviordesign.com
> me: http://www.graphpaper.com
>
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12 Apr 2007 - 2:56pm
gabefriedman
2007

Is there a UI/UX equivalent of the web design/interaction book "The
Design of Sites"?

Christopher Fahey wrote:

>>I'm torn. On one hand, the beauty of calling it a pattern, of
>>encompassing it with a name (regardless of how difficult it
>>is to get to that name), is that the community can refer to
>>that specific interaction instance.
>>
>>
>
>Maybe what we need is a library/wiki chock-full of specific UI design
>implementations, tagged with a top-level fixed vocabulary of major
>pattern names.
>
>So the example that started this thread would have it's own unique
>entry, and would be tagged with top-level "Accordion", and "Extras On
>Demand".
>
>-Cf
>
>Christopher Fahey
>____________________________
>Behavior
>http://www.behaviordesign.com
>me: http://www.graphpaper.com
>
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--
Gabriel Friedman
gabrielfriedmandesign.com

12 Apr 2007 - 3:43pm
Kevin Wong
2007

UPA has been working on a Usability Body of Knowledge project for
quite a while now. It's completely voluntary and already has some
interesting coverage of information on various topics and methods
(professional development, definitions, etc). Maybe this is a good
starting place to combine efforts or inspire a separate IxD oriented
wiki?

http://www.usabilitybok.org/

-kevin

On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Thomas Vander Wal wrote:

> Clay Shirky is leading something along these lines with the
> Moderation Strategies wiki
> http://social.itp.nyu.edu/shirky/wiki/?n=Main.PatternLanguage
>
> USC Annenberg School has something along these lines, but it was all
> text as well.
>
> ATB,
> Thomas
>
> On 4/12/07, Christopher Fahey <chris.fahey at behaviordesign.com> wrote:
>>> I'm torn. On one hand, the beauty of calling it a pattern, of
>>> encompassing it with a name (regardless of how difficult it
>>> is to get to that name), is that the community can refer to
>>> that specific interaction instance.
>>
>> Maybe what we need is a library/wiki chock-full of specific UI design
>> implementations, tagged with a top-level fixed vocabulary of major
>> pattern names.
>>
>> So the example that started this thread would have it's own unique
>> entry, and would be tagged with top-level "Accordion", and "Extras On
>> Demand".
>>
>> -Cf
>>
>> Christopher Fahey
>> ____________________________
>> Behavior
>> http://www.behaviordesign.com
>> me: http://www.graphpaper.com
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
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12 Apr 2007 - 11:35am
Gil Barros
2006

I also see the example as a widget (which might also need a name), but not as a
new pattern. It uses both the accordion and the (lager) extras on demand
patterns, but it's not a new pattern.

But I think that it's a blurry line for me sometimes, the distinction between a
widget that may have many faces, and a pattern. A door would be a widget, and
the patterns would be a short passage between spaces.

g.:

Janna Hicks DeVylder escreveu (12.04.07 12:40):
> I'm torn. On one hand, the beauty of calling it a pattern, of encompassing
> it with a name (regardless of how difficult it is to get to that name), is
> that the community can refer to that specific interaction instance. But on
> the other hand, it is going to be difficult to keep track of all these
> instances, and ultimately could make a pattern library difficult to use.
>
> In the end, I know it is useful to have a shared concept of pattern across
> our community, but if something is reused again and again within your own
> organization's work, I think calling it a pattern and defining it as such
> allows for much reusability in future implementations (and less rework).
>
> janna
>
>
> On 4/12/07, Christopher Fahey <chris.fahey at behaviordesign.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to take advantage of Jenifer Tidwell's expert presence in this
>> thread to ask both her and the group: Is this sort of interaction really
>> a "pattern"? Can or should every new type of interaction design be
>> called a pattern?
>>
>> I

12 Apr 2007 - 5:46pm
Jonathan Bélisle
2007

Hi to you all!

I refer toYahoo Pattern Library is very Advanced on this plane since
they have developed an Ontological Framework of their own to build their UI.
http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/

Also....Wellie Patterns are very Advanced in their Taxonomies system.
http://www.welie.com/patterns/

Have a look at this student who developed a pretty Amazingly Clever
Controlled Vocabulary to plan project. I might also give ideas on how
Patterns can be use to create stories that are Structured around Common
Sense Pattern that emerge from Natural Observation.
http://people.engr.ncsu.edu/jthurtea/articles/patterns/

Nowaydays I had to come up myself with my Own Ontological Framework and
Controlled Vocabularies to practices Effective Information Architecture
in the following Areas:

* Information Design AKA Communication Design
* Interaction Design AKA Product Design
* Sensorial Design AKA Event Design

I am releasing my own personal Information Architect Manifesto in 2
months before the whole vocation shift its market directionality again :)
Jonathan Belisle - Hello, Architekt !

Christopher Fahey a écrit :
>> I'm torn. On one hand, the beauty of calling it a pattern, of
>> encompassing it with a name (regardless of how difficult it
>> is to get to that name), is that the community can refer to
>> that specific interaction instance.
>>
>
> Maybe what we need is a library/wiki chock-full of specific UI design
> implementations, tagged with a top-level fixed vocabulary of major
> pattern names.
>
> So the example that started this thread would have it's own unique
> entry, and would be tagged with top-level "Accordion", and "Extras On
> Demand".
>
> -Cf
>
> Christopher Fahey
> ____________________________
> Behavior
> http://www.behaviordesign.com
> me: http://www.graphpaper.com
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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>
>
>

12 Apr 2007 - 7:00pm
Christian Crumlish
2006

I think a pattern-pedia would be a great idea. As I mentioned earlier.
We don't see the Yahoo library as an end-all or walled garden. While
it's not open to editing by anyone, it is shared with a Creative
Commons license and we'd be interested in embracing some large
meta-library of some sort.

-xian-
>
> On 4/12/07, Janna Hicks DeVylder <janna at devylder.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe what we need is a library/wiki chock-full of specific UI design
> > > implementations, tagged with a top-level fixed vocabulary of major
> > > pattern names.
> >
> >
> > A pattern-pedia? (sorry, couldn't resist.)
> >
> > But seriously... a shared, community-built library. I like it. But it makes
> > me wonder... how many people are creating organization-specific libraries to
> > inform their work, or using public-facing libraries (a la Yahoo), or a
> > combination of both? And how would/could that internal practice translate
> > into this community-built library?
> >
> > janna

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