IE 7 not selecting text in destination field... a preferred standard?

7 Feb 2007 - 4:50pm
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jbellis
2005

In IE 6, pressing F4 caused the focus to move to the Address field and selected all of the text in the field (so that merely typing a new URL and pressing Enter worked). In IE 7 I notice that the text is no longer selected, and instead, the cursor is positioned at the beginning of the field.

Assuming that this is intentional, does anyone know what influence this comes from? Is it a standard that is preferred or successful in some other context or platform of which I'm unaware? Do you think this new behavior is the correct behavior?

Thanks, and sorry for interrupting the 'best designer' forum.
www.jackbellis.com

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8 Feb 2007 - 1:29pm
Robert Hoekman, Jr.
2005

In IE6, F4 highlights the first item in the list of visited URLs by default.
In IE7, you have to roll over the items to highlight them or use your arrow
keys. That said, F6 does exactly what you're saying F4 used to do. F6
highlights the address in the Address bar.

Same is true in Firefox (F6, not F4).

Regardless, "don't piss off your expert users". :)

-r-

On 2/7/07, jackbellis.com <jackbellis at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> In IE 6, pressing F4 caused the focus to move to the Address field and
> selected all of the text in the field (so that merely typing a new URL and
> pressing Enter worked). In IE 7 I notice that the text is no longer
> selected, and instead, the cursor is positioned at the beginning of the
> field.
>
> Assuming that this is intentional, does anyone know what influence this
> comes from? Is it a standard that is preferred or successful in some other
> context or platform of which I'm unaware? Do you think this new behavior is
> the correct behavior?
>
> Thanks, and sorry for interrupting the 'best designer' forum.
> www.jackbellis.com
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8 Feb 2007 - 2:03pm
jbellis
2005

Robert,

OK, that helps. I was all set to say "aahhhhhh... it's a Firefox thing," but now that I'm learning about F6 for the first time, I see that F6 works in IE6, too!

As for the notion of change, I accept that any users can and should be made to re-learn if a product must be "corrected," as long as functionality is not reduced. Not having IE7 in front of me, it appears that the functionality has not been reduced, only re-keyed.

So I'm left only with the question of whether people agree that pre-selecting whole fields is the proper software behavior, but I no longer care, since I can still accomplish it.

Thanks, Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Hoekman, Jr.
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Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] IE 7 not selecting text in destination field... a preferred standard?

In IE6, F4 highlights the first item in the list of visited URLs by default. In IE7, you have to roll over the items to highlight them or use your arrow keys. That said, F6 does exactly what you're saying F4 used to do. F6 highlights the address in the Address bar.

Same is true in Firefox (F6, not F4).

Regardless, "don't piss off your expert users". :)

-r-

On 2/7/07, jackbellis.com <jackbellis at hotmail.com> wrote:
In IE 6, pressing F4 caused the focus to move to the Address field and selected all of the text in the field (so that merely typing a new URL and pressing Enter worked). In IE 7 I notice that the text is no longer selected, and instead, the cursor is positioned at the beginning of the field.

Assuming that this is intentional, does anyone know what influence this comes from? Is it a standard that is preferred or successful in some other context or platform of which I'm unaware? Do you think this new behavior is the correct behavior?

Thanks, and sorry for interrupting the 'best designer' forum.
www.jackbellis.com
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8 Feb 2007 - 3:03pm
Robert Hoekman, Jr.
2005

> As for the notion of change, I accept that any users can and should be
> made to re-learn if a product must be "corrected," as long as functionality
> is not reduced. Not having IE7 in front of me, it appears that the
> functionality has not been reduced, only re-keyed.

Indeed. They didn't improve anything - just changed it, which really makes
it worse for no good reason.

-r-

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