Spider diagram / Cloud cluster tools

22 Jan 2007 - 6:57am
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Dean Wilson
2007

Hi,

I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise / explain
to a client how content within a site might aggregate around different
themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on the user
journey through site.

I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster tool might be
the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?

thanks

Dean

Dean Wilson
Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide

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22 Jan 2007 - 1:14pm
Esteban Barahona
2006

play with fractals... iTunes visualization + your favorite music

2007/1/22, Dean Wilson <thedeanofwilson en gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise / explain
> to a client how content within a site might aggregate around different
> themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on the
> user
> journey through site.
>
> I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster tool might
> be
> the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?
>
> thanks
>
> Dean
>
> Dean Wilson
> Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide
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22 Jan 2007 - 3:00pm
E. Miller
2006

I don't know, Esteban. iTunes visualizations? Two issues: one, it's a real
stretch as an abstraction. What are the analogies/parallels to the user
experience? Secondly, I can't easily see how it could be done in such a way
that doesn't look sophomoric. I appreciate your ability to think beyond
convention but I often have a hard time understanding how your numerous
suggestions are applicable. Sorry.

To speak to Dean's original question: I can think of examples more than I
can think of specific applications (though Flash could easily be used to
prototype an example.) I like how the BBC site uses color to emphasize
areas of heavy use. Click on a section more often, the color becomes more
intense. (they may not be using this as much now, however)
http://www.holovaty.com/blog/archive/2002/11/21/1253
And Amazon's user-specific customizations based on history (not only on
their own site but in their syndicated advertisements as well) are
interesting in this regard.

There are several visualization-oriented search tools that leap to mind like
Grokker (in map view) or anacubis or Kartoo that might be useful for showing
non-linear drilldown into related content groups similar to the way that
users click around in sites.

And an observation: I'd be curious to hear what everyone feels are best
practices around this level of on-the-fly user-specific customization.
Flash developers, for example, run into issues of user disorientation and
'breaking' things like browser back buttons, bookmarking functionality, and
coherent search engine indexing. User-specific customization approaches can
make for a compelling user experience, but is there a functional cost in the
context of the larger patterns of current web practices and technologies?

Eric

On 1/22/07 10:14 AM, "Esteban Barahona" <esteban.barahona at gmail.com> wrote:

> play with fractals... iTunes visualization + your favorite music
>
> 2007/1/22, Dean Wilson <thedeanofwilson at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise / explain
>> to a client how content within a site might aggregate around different
>> themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on the
>> user
>> journey through site.
>>
>> I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster tool might
>> be
>> the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> Dean Wilson
>> Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
>> To post to this list ....... discuss at ixda.org
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>
>

22 Jan 2007 - 3:23pm
Esteban Barahona
2006

wtf is sophomoric? synesthisia... the oneness of the senses... sorry over
text is way difficult to say something that in its essence is abstract...
"RealWorld" communication is much better; the chakras are closer...

2007/1/22, E. Miller <subscriptionbox en squishymedia.com>:
>
> I don't know, Esteban. iTunes visualizations? Two issues: one, it's a
> real
> stretch as an abstraction. What are the analogies/parallels to the user
> experience? Secondly, I can't easily see how it could be done in such a
> way
> that doesn't look sophomoric. I appreciate your ability to think beyond
> convention but I often have a hard time understanding how your numerous
> suggestions are applicable. Sorry.
>
> To speak to Dean's original question: I can think of examples more than I
> can think of specific applications (though Flash could easily be used to
> prototype an example.) I like how the BBC site uses color to emphasize
> areas of heavy use. Click on a section more often, the color becomes more
> intense. (they may not be using this as much now, however)
> http://www.holovaty.com/blog/archive/2002/11/21/1253
> And Amazon's user-specific customizations based on history (not only on
> their own site but in their syndicated advertisements as well) are
> interesting in this regard.
>
> There are several visualization-oriented search tools that leap to mind
> like
> Grokker (in map view) or anacubis or Kartoo that might be useful for
> showing
> non-linear drilldown into related content groups similar to the way that
> users click around in sites.
>
> And an observation: I'd be curious to hear what everyone feels are best
> practices around this level of on-the-fly user-specific customization.
> Flash developers, for example, run into issues of user disorientation and
> 'breaking' things like browser back buttons, bookmarking functionality,
> and
> coherent search engine indexing. User-specific customization approaches
> can
> make for a compelling user experience, but is there a functional cost in
> the
> context of the larger patterns of current web practices and technologies?
>
> Eric
>
> On 1/22/07 10:14 AM, "Esteban Barahona" <esteban.barahona en gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > play with fractals... iTunes visualization + your favorite music
> >
> > 2007/1/22, Dean Wilson <thedeanofwilson en gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise /
> explain
> >> to a client how content within a site might aggregate around different
> >> themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on the
> >> user
> >> journey through site.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster tool
> might
> >> be
> >> the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> Dean Wilson
> >> Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide
> >> ________________________________________________________________
> >> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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22 Jan 2007 - 3:32pm
russwilson
2005

Ok... Time to stop this

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Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Spider diagram / Cloud cluster tools

wtf is sophomoric? synesthisia... the oneness of the senses... sorry over
text is way difficult to say something that in its essence is abstract...
"RealWorld" communication is much better; the chakras are closer...

2007/1/22, E. Miller <subscriptionbox at squishymedia.com>:
>
> I don't know, Esteban. iTunes visualizations? Two issues: one, it's a
> real
> stretch as an abstraction. What are the analogies/parallels to the user
> experience? Secondly, I can't easily see how it could be done in such a
> way
> that doesn't look sophomoric. I appreciate your ability to think beyond
> convention but I often have a hard time understanding how your numerous
> suggestions are applicable. Sorry.
>
> To speak to Dean's original question: I can think of examples more than I
> can think of specific applications (though Flash could easily be used to
> prototype an example.) I like how the BBC site uses color to emphasize
> areas of heavy use. Click on a section more often, the color becomes more
> intense. (they may not be using this as much now, however)
> http://www.holovaty.com/blog/archive/2002/11/21/1253
> And Amazon's user-specific customizations based on history (not only on
> their own site but in their syndicated advertisements as well) are
> interesting in this regard.
>
> There are several visualization-oriented search tools that leap to mind
> like
> Grokker (in map view) or anacubis or Kartoo that might be useful for
> showing
> non-linear drilldown into related content groups similar to the way that
> users click around in sites.
>
> And an observation: I'd be curious to hear what everyone feels are best
> practices around this level of on-the-fly user-specific customization.
> Flash developers, for example, run into issues of user disorientation and
> 'breaking' things like browser back buttons, bookmarking functionality,
> and
> coherent search engine indexing. User-specific customization approaches
> can
> make for a compelling user experience, but is there a functional cost in
> the
> context of the larger patterns of current web practices and technologies?
>
> Eric
>
> On 1/22/07 10:14 AM, "Esteban Barahona" <esteban.barahona at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > play with fractals... iTunes visualization + your favorite music
> >
> > 2007/1/22, Dean Wilson <thedeanofwilson at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise /
> explain
> >> to a client how content within a site might aggregate around different
> >> themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on the
> >> user
> >> journey through site.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster tool
> might
> >> be
> >> the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> Dean Wilson
> >> Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide
> >> ________________________________________________________________
> >> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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22 Jan 2007 - 3:59pm
Lorne Trudeau
2006

I concur.

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Ok... Time to stop this

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Sent: Mon Jan 22 14:23:11 2007
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Spider diagram / Cloud cluster tools

wtf is sophomoric? synesthisia... the oneness of the senses... sorry
over
text is way difficult to say something that in its essence is
abstract...
"RealWorld" communication is much better; the chakras are closer...

22 Jan 2007 - 5:45pm
ian swinson
2005

Hi Dean,
I'm not sure *exactly* what you're trying to accomplish - I've used any number of techniques to communicate information - but have you looked into simple mind mapping software? E.g.:
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

You can create complex hierarchies, embed images, movies, etc. and reveal as needed. It's a great way to communicate complex structures and progressively reveal details when focusing on specific content areas.

This could, of course, be accomplished in Visio/PDF/Illustrator/HTML/etc. but this tool is free, easy to use, and doesn't require additional technologies for creating basic interactivity.

Ian

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22 Jan 2007 - 5:51pm
Ari
2006

mind mapping software will produce this desired output some sometimes an
"experience" such an interactive prototype will be the most effective to
illustrate the effect.

pictures are worth a thousand words but concepts like "tag clouds" and
similar constructs are hard for people to visualize - these are better
experienced.

download a trial version of Axure and generate a prototype with it.

On 1/22/07, ian swinson <iswinson at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dean,
> I'm not sure *exactly* what you're trying to accomplish - I've used any
> number of techniques to communicate information - but have you looked into
> simple mind mapping software? E.g.:
> http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>
> You can create complex hierarchies, embed images, movies, etc. and reveal
> as needed. It's a great way to communicate complex structures and
> progressively reveal details when focusing on specific content areas.
>
> This could, of course, be accomplished in Visio/PDF/Illustrator/HTML/etc.
> but this tool is free, easy to use, and doesn't require additional
> technologies for creating basic interactivity.
>
> Ian
>
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22 Jan 2007 - 6:43pm
ian swinson
2005

Apparently you're on a different "wavelength" than the rest of us.

My guess, based on how you communicate, is you're going to spend a *lot of time* typing before we cotton on to your message - if indeed, you have one.

Regards,
Ian

Esteban Barahona <esteban.barahona at gmail.com> wrote: wtf? why you all obscured it so much... just WILL to COMMUNICATE! In what languages do I have to write the same words... over, and over, and over, again.

long live the triad of buddhism! yey! ^_^

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22 Jan 2007 - 3:17pm
laura olac
2007

This is a technology that was used to build Smithsonian without walls
if any of you ever came across that environment. It was beautifully
done, unfortunately it is no longer available online. Take a look at
Thinkmap. They have a little demo there that will give you an idea if
this is what you are looking for: http://www.thinkmap.com/

Laura

On 1/22/07, E. Miller <subscriptionbox at squishymedia.com> wrote:
> I don't know, Esteban. iTunes visualizations? Two issues: one, it's a real
> stretch as an abstraction. What are the analogies/parallels to the user
> experience? Secondly, I can't easily see how it could be done in such a way
> that doesn't look sophomoric. I appreciate your ability to think beyond
> convention but I often have a hard time understanding how your numerous
> suggestions are applicable. Sorry.
>
> To speak to Dean's original question: I can think of examples more than I
> can think of specific applications (though Flash could easily be used to
> prototype an example.) I like how the BBC site uses color to emphasize
> areas of heavy use. Click on a section more often, the color becomes more
> intense. (they may not be using this as much now, however)
> http://www.holovaty.com/blog/archive/2002/11/21/1253
> And Amazon's user-specific customizations based on history (not only on
> their own site but in their syndicated advertisements as well) are
> interesting in this regard.
>
> There are several visualization-oriented search tools that leap to mind like
> Grokker (in map view) or anacubis or Kartoo that might be useful for showing
> non-linear drilldown into related content groups similar to the way that
> users click around in sites.
>
> And an observation: I'd be curious to hear what everyone feels are best
> practices around this level of on-the-fly user-specific customization.
> Flash developers, for example, run into issues of user disorientation and
> 'breaking' things like browser back buttons, bookmarking functionality, and
> coherent search engine indexing. User-specific customization approaches can
> make for a compelling user experience, but is there a functional cost in the
> context of the larger patterns of current web practices and technologies?
>
> Eric
>
> On 1/22/07 10:14 AM, "Esteban Barahona" <esteban.barahona at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > play with fractals... iTunes visualization + your favorite music
> >
> > 2007/1/22, Dean Wilson <thedeanofwilson at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise / explain
> >> to a client how content within a site might aggregate around different
> >> themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on the
> >> user
> >> journey through site.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster tool might
> >> be
> >> the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> Dean Wilson
> >> Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide
> >> ________________________________________________________________
> >> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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> >
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23 Jan 2007 - 8:08am
Dean Wilson
2007

Thanks Laura,

Think map's Visual thesaurus is pretty close to what I am looking for (in
terms of behaviour). Having had the evening to think about it I realise that
what I am really after is something that aggregates content/items around
nodes.

As Eric suggests I could probably prototype something in Flash. I just
wanted to see if someone might have already done the hard work for me ;)

In the meantime I have been using MindJet's
MindManager<http://www.mindjet.com/us/>to manually organise/visualise
relationships. Not really what I want but a
useful tool to add to one's bag of tricks.

My search continues.

Cheers

Dean

On 1/22/07, laura olac <laura.olac at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a technology that was used to build Smithsonian without walls
> if any of you ever came across that environment. It was beautifully
> done, unfortunately it is no longer available online. Take a look at
> Thinkmap. They have a little demo there that will give you an idea if
> this is what you are looking for: http://www.thinkmap.com/
>
> Laura
>
> On 1/22/07, E. Miller <subscriptionbox at squishymedia.com> wrote:
> > I don't know, Esteban. iTunes visualizations? Two issues: one, it's a
> real
> > stretch as an abstraction. What are the analogies/parallels to the user
> > experience? Secondly, I can't easily see how it could be done in such a
> way
> > that doesn't look sophomoric. I appreciate your ability to think beyond
> > convention but I often have a hard time understanding how your numerous
> > suggestions are applicable. Sorry.
> >
> > To speak to Dean's original question: I can think of examples more than
> I
> > can think of specific applications (though Flash could easily be used to
> > prototype an example.) I like how the BBC site uses color to emphasize
> > areas of heavy use. Click on a section more often, the color becomes
> more
> > intense. (they may not be using this as much now, however)
> > http://www.holovaty.com/blog/archive/2002/11/21/1253
> > And Amazon's user-specific customizations based on history (not only on
> > their own site but in their syndicated advertisements as well) are
> > interesting in this regard.
> >
> > There are several visualization-oriented search tools that leap to mind
> like
> > Grokker (in map view) or anacubis or Kartoo that might be useful for
> showing
> > non-linear drilldown into related content groups similar to the way that
> > users click around in sites.
> >
> > And an observation: I'd be curious to hear what everyone feels are best
> > practices around this level of on-the-fly user-specific customization.
> > Flash developers, for example, run into issues of user disorientation
> and
> > 'breaking' things like browser back buttons, bookmarking functionality,
> and
> > coherent search engine indexing. User-specific customization approaches
> can
> > make for a compelling user experience, but is there a functional cost in
> the
> > context of the larger patterns of current web practices and
> technologies?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On 1/22/07 10:14 AM, "Esteban Barahona" <esteban.barahona at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > play with fractals... iTunes visualization + your favorite music
> > >
> > > 2007/1/22, Dean Wilson <thedeanofwilson at gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise /
> explain
> > >> to a client how content within a site might aggregate around
> different
> > >> themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on
> the
> > >> user
> > >> journey through site.
> > >>
> > >> I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster tool
> might
> > >> be
> > >> the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?
> > >>
> > >> thanks
> > >>
> > >> Dean
> > >>
> > >> Dean Wilson
> > >> Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide
> > >> ________________________________________________________________
> > >> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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23 Jan 2007 - 12:12pm
Peter Bagnall
2003

Have you come across gnod.net. It does something that looks a bit
like visual theasarus without the links between things. Instead is
clusters things together based of how "similar" they are. In Gnod's
case is does movies, books and music, and similarity is determined (I
think) in a similar way to Amazon's "people who liked X also liked Y".

Whether you could get hold of the inner workings to use it for
something different I don't know, but it might be work a look. I
think it was done for a university project so there's a chance at least.

Cheers
--Pete

On 23 Jan 2007, at 13:08, Dean Wilson wrote:

> Thanks Laura,
>
> Think map's Visual thesaurus is pretty close to what I am looking
> for (in
> terms of behaviour). Having had the evening to think about it I
> realise that
> what I am really after is something that aggregates content/items
> around
> nodes.
>
> As Eric suggests I could probably prototype something in Flash. I just
> wanted to see if someone might have already done the hard work for
> me ;)
>
> In the meantime I have been using MindJet's
> MindManager<http://www.mindjet.com/us/>to manually organise/visualise
> relationships. Not really what I want but a
> useful tool to add to one's bag of tricks.
>
> My search continues.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dean
>
> On 1/22/07, laura olac <laura.olac at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is a technology that was used to build Smithsonian without walls
>> if any of you ever came across that environment. It was beautifully
>> done, unfortunately it is no longer available online. Take a look at
>> Thinkmap. They have a little demo there that will give you an idea if
>> this is what you are looking for: http://www.thinkmap.com/
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> On 1/22/07, E. Miller <subscriptionbox at squishymedia.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know, Esteban. iTunes visualizations? Two issues: one,
>>> it's a
>> real
>>> stretch as an abstraction. What are the analogies/parallels to
>>> the user
>>> experience? Secondly, I can't easily see how it could be done in
>>> such a
>> way
>>> that doesn't look sophomoric. I appreciate your ability to think
>>> beyond
>>> convention but I often have a hard time understanding how your
>>> numerous
>>> suggestions are applicable. Sorry.
>>>
>>> To speak to Dean's original question: I can think of examples
>>> more than
>> I
>>> can think of specific applications (though Flash could easily be
>>> used to
>>> prototype an example.) I like how the BBC site uses color to
>>> emphasize
>>> areas of heavy use. Click on a section more often, the color
>>> becomes
>> more
>>> intense. (they may not be using this as much now, however)
>>> http://www.holovaty.com/blog/archive/2002/11/21/1253
>>> And Amazon's user-specific customizations based on history (not
>>> only on
>>> their own site but in their syndicated advertisements as well) are
>>> interesting in this regard.
>>>
>>> There are several visualization-oriented search tools that leap
>>> to mind
>> like
>>> Grokker (in map view) or anacubis or Kartoo that might be useful for
>> showing
>>> non-linear drilldown into related content groups similar to the
>>> way that
>>> users click around in sites.
>>>
>>> And an observation: I'd be curious to hear what everyone feels
>>> are best
>>> practices around this level of on-the-fly user-specific
>>> customization.
>>> Flash developers, for example, run into issues of user
>>> disorientation
>> and
>>> 'breaking' things like browser back buttons, bookmarking
>>> functionality,
>> and
>>> coherent search engine indexing. User-specific customization
>>> approaches
>> can
>>> make for a compelling user experience, but is there a functional
>>> cost in
>> the
>>> context of the larger patterns of current web practices and
>> technologies?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On 1/22/07 10:14 AM, "Esteban Barahona" <esteban.barahona at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> play with fractals... iTunes visualization + your favorite music
>>>>
>>>> 2007/1/22, Dean Wilson <thedeanofwilson at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for a tool that can help me to dynamically visualise /
>> explain
>>>>> to a client how content within a site might aggregate around
>> different
>>>>> themes, or have greater or lesser priority/prominence depending on
>> the
>>>>> user
>>>>> journey through site.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking that some form of spider diagram or cloud-cluster
>>>>> tool
>> might
>>>>> be
>>>>> the way to go. Has anyone got any recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Dean
>>>>>
>>>>> Dean Wilson
>>>>> Senior UEA, MRM Worldwide
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24 Jan 2007 - 7:25am
Al Selvin
2006

A different approach to this is Compendium, which is free, open
source, and available at www.compendiuminstitute.org. It doesn't do
some of the things the tools below do, but it does lots of things they
don't.

Al

On 23 Jan 2007, at 13:08, Dean Wilson wrote:

>
> In the meantime I have been using MindJet's
> MindManager<http://www.mindjet.com/us/>to manually organise/visualise
> relationships. Not really what I want but a
> useful tool to add to one's bag of tricks.
>
> My search continues.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dean
>
> On 1/22/07, laura olac <laura.olac at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is a technology that was used to build Smithsonian without walls
>> if any of you ever came across that environment. It was beautifully
>> done, unfortunately it is no longer available online. Take a look at
>> Thinkmap. They have a little demo there that will give you an idea if
>> this is what you are looking for: http://www.thinkmap.com/
>>
>> Laura
>>

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