online photo galleries

5 Dec 2006 - 9:51am
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Valerie Gomez d...
2006

hello all -

i am curious as to your thoughts on online photo galleries.

when i say photo galleries i am speaking of both:
1. the management of personal galleries (eg. kodak gallery) and
2. viewing public galleries (eg. 'photos of the day' on any online publication)

good examples? bad examples? why? one technology vs another?

thanks for any ideas you all may have!

happy holidays,
valerie

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5 Dec 2006 - 10:20am
Palmer, Eric
1969

www.pbase.com

- Simple
- web 1.0 mostly
- ability to directly link to a photo from an external page - this is
useful - for people that want to discuss images in forums
- can have public and private galleries
- can create your own style sheets and more
- $23/year for 450 MB of images
- taxonomy based (tree structure)
- allows commenting by others

www.flickr.com

- Can be simple or complex
- Web 2.0 features
- uses folksonomy tagging
- public and private with levels
- simple blog posting of photos
- Account for free (part of yahoo.com)
- $24.95 for pro account

I know less about Flckr but have been using pbase for years. I'm
probably going to migrate my photos to flickr.

To get the know the sites go read their features pages and try them out.

----------------------
Eric F. Palmer, CIPP
IS - Director of Web Services
Jepson Hall Web Services Office
University of Richmond, VA 23173
804.287.6591 Office
804.405.7404 Cell
-----Original Message-----
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Valerie Gomez de la Torre
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:51 AM
To: discuss at ixda.org
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] online photo galleries

hello all -

i am curious as to your thoughts on online photo galleries.

when i say photo galleries i am speaking of both:
1. the management of personal galleries (eg. kodak gallery) and
2. viewing public galleries (eg. 'photos of the day' on any online
publication)

good examples? bad examples? why? one technology vs another?

thanks for any ideas you all may have!

happy holidays,
valerie
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5 Dec 2006 - 10:28am
Valerie Gomez d...
2006

great, Eric. thank you.
can I ask you why you want to migrate to flickr? what is your motivation there?

On 12/5/06, Palmer, Eric <epalmer at richmond.edu> wrote:
> www.pbase.com
>
> - Simple
> - web 1.0 mostly
> - ability to directly link to a photo from an external page - this is
> useful - for people that want to discuss images in forums
> - can have public and private galleries
> - can create your own style sheets and more
> - $23/year for 450 MB of images
> - taxonomy based (tree structure)
> - allows commenting by others
>
>
> www.flickr.com
>
> - Can be simple or complex
> - Web 2.0 features
> - uses folksonomy tagging
> - public and private with levels
> - simple blog posting of photos
> - Account for free (part of yahoo.com)
> - $24.95 for pro account
>
>
> I know less about Flckr but have been using pbase for years. I'm
> probably going to migrate my photos to flickr.
>
>
>
> To get the know the sites go read their features pages and try them out.
>
> ----------------------
> Eric F. Palmer, CIPP
> IS - Director of Web Services
> Jepson Hall Web Services Office
> University of Richmond, VA 23173
> 804.287.6591 Office
> 804.405.7404 Cell
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
> Valerie Gomez de la Torre
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:51 AM
> To: discuss at ixda.org
> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] online photo galleries
>
> hello all -
>
> i am curious as to your thoughts on online photo galleries.
>
> when i say photo galleries i am speaking of both:
> 1. the management of personal galleries (eg. kodak gallery) and
> 2. viewing public galleries (eg. 'photos of the day' on any online
> publication)
>
> good examples? bad examples? why? one technology vs another?
>
> thanks for any ideas you all may have!
>
> happy holidays,
> valerie
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5 Dec 2006 - 10:31am
Palmer, Eric
1969

Mostly the Folksonomy classification - tagging

----------------------
Eric F. Palmer, CIPP
IS - Director of Web Services
Jepson Hall Web Services Office
University of Richmond, VA 23173
804.287.6591 Office
804.405.7404 Cell

-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Gomez de la Torre [mailto:valeriegomez at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:29 AM
To: Palmer, Eric
Cc: discuss at ixda.org
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] online photo galleries

great, Eric. thank you.
can I ask you why you want to migrate to flickr? what is your motivation
there?

On 12/5/06, Palmer, Eric <epalmer at richmond.edu> wrote:
> www.pbase.com
>
> - Simple
> - web 1.0 mostly
> - ability to directly link to a photo from an external page - this is
> useful - for people that want to discuss images in forums
> - can have public and private galleries
> - can create your own style sheets and more
> - $23/year for 450 MB of images
> - taxonomy based (tree structure)
> - allows commenting by others
>
>
> www.flickr.com
>
> - Can be simple or complex
> - Web 2.0 features
> - uses folksonomy tagging
> - public and private with levels
> - simple blog posting of photos
> - Account for free (part of yahoo.com)
> - $24.95 for pro account
>
>
> I know less about Flckr but have been using pbase for years. I'm
> probably going to migrate my photos to flickr.
>
>
>
> To get the know the sites go read their features pages and try them
out.
>
> ----------------------
> Eric F. Palmer, CIPP
> IS - Director of Web Services
> Jepson Hall Web Services Office
> University of Richmond, VA 23173
> 804.287.6591 Office
> 804.405.7404 Cell
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
> Valerie Gomez de la Torre
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:51 AM
> To: discuss at ixda.org
> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] online photo galleries
>
> hello all -
>
> i am curious as to your thoughts on online photo galleries.
>
> when i say photo galleries i am speaking of both:
> 1. the management of personal galleries (eg. kodak gallery) and
> 2. viewing public galleries (eg. 'photos of the day' on any online
> publication)
>
> good examples? bad examples? why? one technology vs another?
>
> thanks for any ideas you all may have!
>
> happy holidays,
> valerie
> ________________________________________________________________
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5 Dec 2006 - 11:03am
Soo Basu
2005

Hi

Yahoo photos - plus point is the express uploader, and unlimited storage
space

Webshots -really great looking site but I haven't used it too many times

Fotki.com - found it a bit cumbersome, from the UX POV

Flickr - personally, the best and most easy and friendly to use.

HTH,

Soo

5 Dec 2006 - 11:08am
Dan Saffer
2003

On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Valerie Gomez de la Torre wrote:

> 2. viewing public galleries (eg. 'photos of the day' on any online
> publication)
>
> good examples?

The New York Times' photo galleries, like this one for example:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtml/2006/11/21/world/
20061122_SNIPER_FEATURE.html

are typically nicely done.

Dan

5 Dec 2006 - 11:14am
Valerie Gomez d...
2006

thanks, Dan.

what in particular do you like about this gallery?

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtml/2006/11/21/world/
20061122_SNIPER_FEATURE.html

5 Dec 2006 - 11:16am
Valerie Gomez d...
2006

thanks, Sunandini.

what are you thoughts on flickr's navigation between photos using the
thumbnail images as the 'back' and 'next' buttons?

5 Dec 2006 - 11:23am
Soo Basu
2005

Hi
I do hate to say this (bcos I'm a die hard Flickr fan) but I don't find them
intuitive at all...and I often click the wrong thumbnail (and I'm a Pro
user!)
I wish they'd kept it simpler with back & next instead. The "more" links
don't really work, do they, and plus they're really faint...
My 2 cents,
Soo

>what are you thoughts on flickr's navigation between photos using the
>thumbnail images as the 'back' and 'next' buttons?

5 Dec 2006 - 11:25am
.pauric
2006

I would like to see functionality that combines slideshow with video,
similar to
http://www.apple.com/aperture/profiles/winter.html

Slideshow is commonplace and video is doable with sites such as;
http://www.fliptrack.com/

5 Dec 2006 - 11:25am
Dan Saffer
2003

On Dec 5, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Valerie Gomez de la Torre wrote:

> what in particular do you like about this gallery?
>

The size and quality of the images and captions. The ability to
easily move between the images. The optional narrative. The ability
to switch to a "contact sheet" view. The smooth transitions between
photos (via Flash).

Dan

5 Dec 2006 - 11:59am
Jason Perez
2006

On 12/5/06, Valerie wrote:
>
>
> when i say photo galleries i am speaking of both:
> 1. the management of personal galleries (eg. kodak gallery) and
> 2. viewing public galleries (eg. 'photos of the day' on any online
> publication)
>
> good examples? bad examples? why? one technology vs another?
>
> thanks for any ideas you all may have!
>
>
For personal galleries: It's been my observation that Flickr is not well
suited for people that want to view a picture or pictures but want minimal
involvement with any other features. If I post pictures of my kids on Flickr
I will get strong participation from computer/internet savvy crowd in my
family (at least from those that are interested) but the beginner crowds
that care to look are either intimidated by the options presented or they
simply don't understand and don't see the value so I get negative responses.

I have found that for the above scenario most people are happy, of course,
with a clear path to their simple goal: see pictures of the kids and then
leave. So I created my own site and I made it easy to see a thumbnail, click
a link to a larger picture, and navigate through. This crowd is also not
adverse to effects. I did just add the ligthbox 2.0
script<http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/>and it was
well received.

Next step is taking the open source CMS MODx <http://modxcms.com/> and using
the MaxiGallery snippet<http://modxcms.com/MaxiGallery-v0.5-BETA2-1190.html>,
which also uses lightbox 2.0. This way I won't be the only one uploading
pictures for the entire family.

- Jason Perez

5 Dec 2006 - 12:02pm
Marc Rettig
2004

For me the four keys to Flickr's addictiveness are:
- ease of uploading (through the little uploader application)

- ease of organization (through "sets" and tags)

- ease of exploration (to see all the shtuff others have shot)

- and the killer: community. The Pittsburgh Flickr group meets regularly, so
the comments people leave on one another's photos are an expression of
support and encouragement from your peeps. Among the non-local groups I
belong to, despite some of the weirdness caused by the popularity contest
that happens on Flickr, I will say I definitely learn. The flickr community
(groups, friends, comments, etc.) definitely effects what I shoot and how I
shoot it.

All that said, when it comes to sharing images with family and friends so
they can download and print them, I wind up making private pages on my own
site, usually using Photoshop's web page maker. Flickr is very public.

. . .
By the way, I'm starting a project related to sharing of photographs in
public places. Would be happy to swap insights and resources with anyone who
has dug deeply into the bundle of related questions.

Cheers,
- marc

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Marc Rettig
Fit Associates, LLC

5 Dec 2006 - 12:04pm
Josh
2006

For simple implementations Slideshow Pro http://www.slideshowpro.net/ has
some interesting features. I wouldn't use it for high traffic sites or sites
built around photo sharing, but for a personal site or blog it's decent. It
has some interesting features including the ability to upload a single zip
file with many images. The UI for the actual gallery is similar to that used
by the New York Times and is pretty slick.

Downsides are that it requires the standard "damn I have to wait for flash
to load" pre-loader, the actual code for it is very clunky and almost
impossible to customize, and it was not built for large applications.

One of my biggest pet peeves with online photo galleries is when the
"next/previous" links move relative to the size of the image and out from
under your mouse.

- Josh

5 Dec 2006 - 12:11pm
Cecily Walker
2006

On 12/5/06, Sunandini Basu <sunandinibasu at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
> I do hate to say this (bcos I'm a die hard Flickr fan) but I don't find them
> intuitive at all...and I often click the wrong thumbnail (and I'm a Pro
> user!)

I'm the exact opposite. I find the "more" links incredibly helpful. It
was a bit of a behavior change (if one clicks on an arrow, one expects
the image in the main staging area to change), but I quickly adapted
to it once I figured out how it worked. It allows me to browse through
thumbnails from within a person's photostream without leaving the main
page. If I see something that I'd like to see larger, I can click on
the thumbnail. I *adore* this functionality.

6 Dec 2006 - 1:37pm
Valerie Gomez d...
2006

great feedback!!

in keeping with this thread...what do you all think about showing the
'contact sheet' view prior to getting to the 'full photo/slide show'
view of a photo gallery?

for example...

on a site you see a gallery titled: 'vacation photos'.
you click on the promo and arrive at the 'contact sheet' view. (thumbs)
you then must click on a thumbnail to arrive at the 'full photo/slide
show' view which also allows you to scroll thru the gallery.

is the 'contact sheet; view unnecessary? should the user go straight
to the 'full photo/slide show' view?

-val

6 Dec 2006 - 1:43pm
Esteban Barahona
2006

more than a contact sheet, why not use a signature that links to the contact
sheet at the bottom of the website?

2006/12/6, Valerie Gomez de la Torre <valeriegomez en gmail.com>:
>
> great feedback!!
>
> in keeping with this thread...what do you all think about showing the
> 'contact sheet' view prior to getting to the 'full photo/slide show'
> view of a photo gallery?
>
> for example...
>
> on a site you see a gallery titled: 'vacation photos'.
> you click on the promo and arrive at the 'contact sheet' view. (thumbs)
> you then must click on a thumbnail to arrive at the 'full photo/slide
> show' view which also allows you to scroll thru the gallery.
>
> is the 'contact sheet; view unnecessary? should the user go straight
> to the 'full photo/slide show' view?
>
> -val
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6 Dec 2006 - 1:48pm
Valerie Gomez d...
2006

> more than a contact sheet, why not use a signature that links to the contact
> sheet at the bottom of the website?

Esteban - can you explain? do you know of any examples?

6 Dec 2006 - 2:14pm
Spina, Andrew
2006

I think the 'contact sheet' can be a good way to communicate the size
and give an overview of the contents of a slide show. It also provides
for an alternate entry point in to what would otherwise be a blind
linear process.

An ideal implementation integrates both... A big photo above with the
contact sheet below (or to the side), enabling non-linear access and
doubling as a kind of status indicator of your progress thought the
series.

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
Valerie Gomez de la Torre
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Cecily Walker
Cc: discuss at ixda.org
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] online photo galleries

great feedback!!

in keeping with this thread...what do you all think about showing the
'contact sheet' view prior to getting to the 'full photo/slide show'
view of a photo gallery?

for example...

on a site you see a gallery titled: 'vacation photos'.
you click on the promo and arrive at the 'contact sheet' view. (thumbs)
you then must click on a thumbnail to arrive at the 'full photo/slide
show' view which also allows you to scroll thru the gallery.

is the 'contact sheet; view unnecessary? should the user go straight to
the 'full photo/slide show' view?

-val
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6 Dec 2006 - 2:29pm
Palmer, Eric
1969

Here is an example of a contact sheet approach.

http://www.pbase.com/ericpalmer/yukonxl

Pictures nothing to speak of (you want to buy a Yukon xl?) but the
example works. Hit the gallery bread crumb link at the top and you will
see that a gallery have a representative picture and then link from the
pic to the contact sheet.

----------------------
Eric F. Palmer, CIPP
IS - Director of Web Services
Jepson Hall Web Services Office
University of Richmond, VA 23173
804.287.6591 Office
804.405.7404 Cell

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
Spina, Andrew
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:14 PM
To: discuss at ixda.org
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] online photo galleries

I think the 'contact sheet' can be a good way to communicate the size
and give an overview of the contents of a slide show. It also provides
for an alternate entry point in to what would otherwise be a blind
linear process.

An ideal implementation integrates both... A big photo above with the
contact sheet below (or to the side), enabling non-linear access and
doubling as a kind of status indicator of your progress thought the
series.

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
Valerie Gomez de la Torre
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Cecily Walker
Cc: discuss at ixda.org
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] online photo galleries

great feedback!!

in keeping with this thread...what do you all think about showing the
'contact sheet' view prior to getting to the 'full photo/slide show'
view of a photo gallery?

for example...

on a site you see a gallery titled: 'vacation photos'.
you click on the promo and arrive at the 'contact sheet' view. (thumbs)
you then must click on a thumbnail to arrive at the 'full photo/slide
show' view which also allows you to scroll thru the gallery.

is the 'contact sheet; view unnecessary? should the user go straight to
the 'full photo/slide show' view?

-val
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6 Dec 2006 - 3:10pm
Esteban Barahona
2006

...it's what I use for my gallery: www.zensui.org/arte

2006/12/6, Valerie Gomez de la Torre <valeriegomez en gmail.com>:
>
> > more than a contact sheet, why not use a signature that links to the
> contact
> > sheet at the bottom of the website?
>
> Esteban - can you explain? do you know of any examples?
>

--
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7 Dec 2006 - 11:04am
Minoru Uchida
2006

As far as corporate galleries go, stock image sites usually make nice,
simple galleries to show off their images. (Getty, Corbis, etc)

This one has probably been mentioned on the list before, but I thought
it was worth bringing up again in this thread, for its unique navigation
technique:

http://interact10ways.com/usa/home.asp

-minoru

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