Bookmarks Managment Brainstorming

23 Nov 2006 - 9:42pm
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Esteban Barahona
2006

The Internet has evolved, lots of information from many different websites
and broadband have changed how we deal with bookmarks. It is common for some
netizens to have 1000+ bookmarks. However it still uses the old (but widely
tested) "folder-file" metaphor. Websites are information, so this aproach
isn't that far off. Meta-data and automatic scripts can be used to clean and
manage this lists of websites.

Why not make a brainstorming about how to improve Bookmarks Managment?

- Embedding common attributes in "names" have being done before. In Unix a '
. ' is used at the beginning of a filename to treat it as "hidden". I have
used an ' * ' for months at the end of websites names (mostly articles or
news), and this means that it's "readed" and "saved".

- The "toolbar" folder is my "main network". ie: e-mail, forums, news, my
website, etc. It's always less than 10 websites.

- hierarchical folders are very important. Most main folders have "swap"
(for temporal websites), "otros" (others, random, unclassified) and
"archivo" (saved, readed, etc) secondary folders.

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23 Nov 2006 - 9:58pm
Dave Malouf
2005

HI Esteban,

I use Del.icio.us + Firefox + the Del.icio.us Add-on from Yahoo!.
It takes over the entire bookmark management service of Firefox and does a
few things that I have grown to like:

1. Searchable bookmarks by either tag or title of Bookmark (you don't have
to choose, it just shows you.

2. Tag navigation. It lists all my tags (or those filtered by the search
query) and then you can expand a tag and then see those bookmarks limited to
that tag.

3. Of course there is an easy dialog for adding bookmarks to del.icio.us.

4. Whatever machine I'm on, has all my bookmarks (Home, office, laptop,
etc.) Because the add-on logs in.

5. For each individual machine the bookmark toolbar is taken over by
del.icio.us with the following view options: "Most Viewed", "Recently
Added", or you can create your own tag(s) to be viewed on the toolbar.

To me this has made del.icio.us finally useful to me, as the hosted model
for bookmark management seems to be ideal for me as someone who uses a lot
of machines.

Anyway, I'm sure there is some fodder in here to help with your
brainstorming for bookmark management. I'm sure there are many other
features that would help.

I do have to say that I thought I loved my bookmark system with heirarchical
folders previously, but really don't miss them now that I have this
del.icio.us sidebar and bookmark system.

-- dave

24 Nov 2006 - 7:10am
Todd Warfel
2003

Sounds a lot like Ma.gnolia http://ma.gnolia.com/

On Nov 23, 2006, at 10:58 PM, David Malouf wrote:

> I use Del.icio.us + Firefox + the Del.icio.us Add-on from Yahoo!.
> It takes over the entire bookmark management service of Firefox and
> does a
> few things that I have grown to like:

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24 Nov 2006 - 8:36am
Dave Malouf
2005

You do not have to make every bookmark public using this.
The Add-on is available through the Firefox Add-on site. It is easiest to
find it under "recommended".
Here is the direct link: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3615/

One feature that springs to mind that I would like to see in the add-on is
the ability to search tags globally and not just my own tags, and do it
within the sidebar. Like, look at my tag for "interactiondesign" and then
say, show me all bookmarks with the tag "interactiondesign" posted in the
last 7 days or something like that.

I mean, what's the point of using Del.icio.us for this if I'm not going to
get the advantage of the global community of bookmark taggers.

There are other multi-browser/desktop bookmark sync services, but none that
are as popular as del.icio.us for its global tagging community of public
bookmarks.

Another feature of interest would be an easy way to turn Digg links into
Del.icio.us bookmarks but still know that I got them through digg ... Yes, I
know I could add a tag called "Digg", but I would hope for something more
programatic.

-- dave

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From: Esteban Barahona [mailto:esteban.barahona at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:51 PM
To: dave at ixda.org
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Bookmarks Managment Brainstorming

Hi,

What's the "Del.icio.us Add-on from Yahoo!"?

I just register in del.icio.us as "zensui.org" ...every bookmark goes to a
public website, right? It may have useful features, but it doesn't suit some
(paranoid) users (like me =P) that prefer not to have 100% of the bookmarks
public.

*resisting urge to make public all my bookmarks*

2006/11/23, David Malouf <dave at ixda.org>:

HI Esteban,

I use Del.icio.us + Firefox + the Del.icio.us Add-on from Yahoo!.
It takes over the entire bookmark management service of Firefox and does a
few things that I have grown to like:

1. Searchable bookmarks by either tag or title of Bookmark (you don't have
to choose, it just shows you.

2. Tag navigation. It lists all my tags (or those filtered by the search
query) and then you can expand a tag and then see those bookmarks limited to
that tag.

3. Of course there is an easy dialog for adding bookmarks to del.icio.us.

4. Whatever machine I'm on, has all my bookmarks (Home, office, laptop,
etc.) Because the add-on logs in.

5. For each individual machine the bookmark toolbar is taken over by
del.icio.us with the following view options: "Most Viewed", "Recently
Added", or you can create your own tag(s) to be viewed on the toolbar.

To me this has made del.icio.us finally useful to me, as the hosted model
for bookmark management seems to be ideal for me as someone who uses a lot
of machines.

Anyway, I'm sure there is some fodder in here to help with your
brainstorming for bookmark management. I'm sure there are many other
features that would help.

I do have to say that I thought I loved my bookmark system with heirarchical

folders previously, but really don't miss them now that I have this
del.icio.us sidebar and bookmark system.

-- dave

24 Nov 2006 - 10:16am
Jorge Barahona
2006

I use del.icio.us <http://del.icio.us/jbarahona> for a long time and for me
the most important things is my network<http://del.icio.us/network/jbarahona>
.
The Internet is about share.
;)
--
Jorge Barahona Ch.
AyerViernes S.A.
design . interaction . user

26 Nov 2006 - 4:20pm
Jeff Axup
2006

Hi Esteban,

About three years ago I got sick of the bookmark/browser management
systems you mention and built my own. It is a php script interfacing
with a mysql database that runs off my private server and is password
protected.

Its primary interface components are: 1) a dominant search engine
query box 2) a basic/rapid form entry for adding new urls 3) a section
of 12 frequently used/important links (which I change as needed by
hand) and which are listed prominently at the top 4) three categories
of links of lesser-used but important links 4) two note-pad fields
which allow jotting quick notes and saving them to the server.

I predominantly use the 12 links at the top, the notepad, and the add
url box. For more obscure items i've visited, I use the search engine.
This also takes the place of folders as i use similar keywords to
label new entries and can search for things like 'shopping'. I also
experimented with an auto-created 'frequently-used-list', but it
changed order too often and didn't have exactly the items I wanted it
in it, so I resorted to a manually-sorted option. I am also playing
with an online-storage area where I can upload/download files to the
server for storage and remote access easily.

This solution allows me to rapidly access my bookmarks and my notepad
from anywhere I am with web access. This may be similar to what
delicious has been up to, but I haven't bothered to look at
competitors recently as I have no complaints with what I'm currently
using.

Cheers,
Jeff

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Principal Consultant, Mobile Community Design Consulting
Currently based in Washington, USA

Research: Mobile Group Research Methods, Social Networks, Group Usability
Contact: axup at userdesign.com
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____________________________________________________________________________

On 11/24/06, Jorge Barahona <ayerviernes at gmail.com> wrote:
> I use del.icio.us <http://del.icio.us/jbarahona> for a long time and for me
> the most important things is my network<http://del.icio.us/network/jbarahona>
> .
> The Internet is about share.
> ;)
> --
> Jorge Barahona Ch.
> AyerViernes S.A.
> design . interaction . user
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27 Nov 2006 - 10:15am
Leisa Reichelt
2006

Another vote for Del.icio.us + Firefox + the Del.icio.us Add-on from me.

I did toy with Ma.gnolia briefly, but didn't see any real advantage
over Del.icio.us to make it worth the move.

Since using Del.icio.us I have almost entirely abandoned bookmarks as
I used to use them (to remember sites where I'd found valuable
information). Bookmarks have now become, for me, quick starts for all
the web applications that I use on a daily basis. Del.icio.us is like
my 'library' now.

In addition to the benefits of being web based and networked, I also
find that the tagging navigation makes my links much more
'retrieveable' than the 'folder' structure of traditional bookmarks.
________________________
Leisa Reichelt
User Experience Consultant

leisa.reichelt at gmail.com
www.disambiguity.com

27 Nov 2006 - 11:43am
Dave Chiu
2006

I like that del.icio.us is lightweight, but the killer feature in
Ma.gnolia (at least for me) is that it saves a copy of the page you
bookmarked. So even if someone makes a change or the page later
disappears, you still have the content you originally bookmarked.
People seem to forget that the web is a dynamic environment where
things appear and disappear in the blink of an eye.

I switched to Ma.gnolia after I bookmarked a couple of sites with
del.icio.us for future reading, only to have them disappear later.
While Ma.gnolia doesn't fix link-rot, it helps to mitigate its
effects: I guess you could look at it as a highly-personalized
Internet Archive.

Personally, I think the archiving feature is the most important
aspect of bookmarking, regardless of what service you use, perhaps
even more important than the social aspects. What's the point of
bookmarking something if I can't retrieve it later?

(Note that because of copyright issues, the archived copy of a site
is available on Ma.gnolia only to the person who made the bookmark.)

Dave Chiu

On Nov 27, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Leisa Reichelt wrote:

> Another vote for Del.icio.us + Firefox + the Del.icio.us Add-on
> from me.
>
> I did toy with Ma.gnolia briefly, but didn't see any real advantage
> over Del.icio.us to make it worth the move.
>
> Since using Del.icio.us I have almost entirely abandoned bookmarks as
> I used to use them (to remember sites where I'd found valuable
> information). Bookmarks have now become, for me, quick starts for all
> the web applications that I use on a daily basis. Del.icio.us is like
> my 'library' now.
>
> In addition to the benefits of being web based and networked, I also
> find that the tagging navigation makes my links much more
> 'retrieveable' than the 'folder' structure of traditional bookmarks.
> ________________________
> Leisa Reichelt
> User Experience Consultant
>
> leisa.reichelt at gmail.com
> www.disambiguity.com
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27 Nov 2006 - 1:00pm
Robert Hoekman, Jr.
2005

Personally, I highly recommend Dashboard HQ. It's a very simple, very
straightforward bookmark management app. Looks like a start page (ala Google
Personalized), but all it does is serve as a customizable portal for your
bookmarks and notes. Just set it as your homepage and go.

http://www.dashboardhq.com

And since I designed it, I'm quite biased. :)

-r-

On 11/27/06, Dave Chiu <dave at d4v3.net> wrote:
>
> I like that del.icio.us is lightweight, but the killer feature in
> Ma.gnolia (at least for me) is that it saves a copy of the page you
> bookmarked. So even if someone makes a change or the page later
> disappears, you still have the content you originally bookmarked.
> People seem to forget that the web is a dynamic environment where
> things appear and disappear in the blink of an eye.
>
> I switched to Ma.gnolia after I bookmarked a couple of sites with
> del.icio.us for future reading, only to have them disappear later.
> While Ma.gnolia doesn't fix link-rot, it helps to mitigate its
> effects: I guess you could look at it as a highly-personalized
> Internet Archive.
>
> Personally, I think the archiving feature is the most important
> aspect of bookmarking, regardless of what service you use, perhaps
> even more important than the social aspects. What's the point of
> bookmarking something if I can't retrieve it later?
>
> (Note that because of copyright issues, the archived copy of a site
> is available on Ma.gnolia only to the person who made the bookmark.)
>
> Dave Chiu
>
> On Nov 27, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Leisa Reichelt wrote:
>
> > Another vote for Del.icio.us + Firefox + the Del.icio.us Add-on
> > from me.
> >
> > I did toy with Ma.gnolia briefly, but didn't see any real advantage
> > over Del.icio.us to make it worth the move.
> >
> > Since using Del.icio.us I have almost entirely abandoned bookmarks as
> > I used to use them (to remember sites where I'd found valuable
> > information). Bookmarks have now become, for me, quick starts for all
> > the web applications that I use on a daily basis. Del.icio.us is like
> > my 'library' now.
> >
> > In addition to the benefits of being web based and networked, I also
> > find that the tagging navigation makes my links much more
> > 'retrieveable' than the 'folder' structure of traditional bookmarks.
> > ________________________
> > Leisa Reichelt
> > User Experience Consultant
> >
> > leisa.reichelt at gmail.com
> > www.disambiguity.com
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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