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20 Jul 2004 - 10:38am

Interaction design vs. Usability -> differencesincompetency

I beg to differ. Usability engineers are not de facto interaction
designers and vice versa.

User research such as usability testing (or user engineers, or whatever
other name we can think of...) is, without a doubt, imperative, but it
certainly is not (interaction) design. It identifies problems, but does
not, except maybe at the most detailed level, suggest adequate

20 Jul 2004 - 10:29am
9 years ago
2 replies
Dave Malouf

ADMIN: (read this before posting) RE: Interaction design vs. Usability -> differencesincompetency

Ok folks, if people are just going to flat ignore me I am going to be forced
to put the list on moderation.

did that get everyone's attention?

First off, we are not here to talk about titles. We have learned over and
over that title talk just angers people and gets everyone no where.

We are here to talk about interaction design as a discipline and NOT as a
title given to a person to describe their role. That being said we are not
going to discuss other discipline's titles either.

20 Jul 2004 - 7:46am
9 years ago
6 replies
Garrick Van Buren

Interaction design vs. Usability -> differences incompetency

Guaranteeing a project is useful, usable, and desirable is a
responsibility of the project team throughout the project. 'Usability
testing' late in the development process only tells the team what
they've done wrong. Usability is a component of interaction design and
as such needs to be developed and refined continuously. All three legs
of the 'design trinity' should be the responsibility of everyone on the
team throughout the development process.

I don't see an issue with a single person driving the usability and
overall interaction design of a given project.

20 Jul 2004 - 7:20am
Dave Malouf

ADMIN: RE: Interaction design vs. Usability -> differences incompetency

I think it is good to explore the boundaries of our discipline, but I want
to re-iterate one of our founding principles here that it is really
difficult to speak about people and the titles they carry. I'm sure there
are many usability engineers who have to practice interaction design as part
of their role, but that does not mean that usability and interaction design
are not distinct disciplines, which are part of a greater whole.

I would like responses to Dan's message (if any) take that point of view,
that Dan is talking about the discpline and not the people.

20 Jul 2004 - 7:03am

ANNOUNCEMENT: BayCHI event on Rich InternetApplications (8/10)

Well, if we're going to promote BayCHI events on here, Jeff Johnson is speaking at the BayCHI Usability BOF tonight. You can find the details on the BayCHI Web site, at:

I recently heard a BayCHI talk about the work they're doing at Laszlo Systems. Very interesting stuff. Sarah Allen, who's one of the panelists at the RIA event Dave mentioned, was one of the speakers.

20 Jul 2004 - 5:23am
9 years ago
10 replies
zayera at

Interaction design vs. Usability -> differences in competency

Hi folks,

I would like to discuss the issues, of Interaction design vs. Usability.
>From my perspective, since I am trying to fit into both "Shoes" I find it
very difficult to work in a Team, where only Usability Experts are around,
and noone representing Interaction design or a broader UX-perspective.

I have been thinking about why it is so?
Could it be that the "design-thinking" is completely uncomprehendable for
some Usability Experts?

19 Jul 2004 - 8:50pm
Dave Malouf

ANNOUNCEMENT: BayCHI event on Rich Internet Applications (8/10)

Hi people,

I know we have a pretty large Bay Area population on here (sorry if you are
not one of them), but I thought this might be of interest to people (BTW,
people can feel free to send me events and I can post them to the list as

The event is about Rich Internet Applications (RIAs).
It is in Palo Alto, CA on Aug 10th
For more information go to

I wish I could go but I can support this panel by posting here and other

Maybe someone who attends can give a report back.


19 Jul 2004 - 2:22pm
9 years ago
1 reply

Good Examples of Physicality in Web Visual Design


I am currently engaged in a Web application project for which the
client would like to incorporate a certain degree of machine-like
physicality in the visual and interaction design (e.g. "like iTunes").
I run up against this request all of the time, and typically argue
that focusing on information display and avoiding the propagation of
extraneous "chrome" is critical in a Web environment, especially,
given the fact that the Web page is already nested within the browser

19 Jul 2004 - 9:52am
Josh Seiden

Proactive search

A little while ago, we had an interesting discussion
about searching and browsing.

19 Jul 2004 - 9:30am
9 years ago
10 replies
Florian Weber

movement in webpage lists


im having a list in a webpage like this:

- item 1
- item 2
- item 3
- sub-item 1
- item 4
- sub-item 1
- sub-item 2
-sub-sub-item 1

the user should be able to move any item in the list to any other

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