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22 Aug 2004 - 8:57am
Pete Gordon - U...

Ideo Method Cards (Tom Peters has cards also.)

I just stumbled on this set of Design Cards from Tom Peters. And it
reminded me of this past discussion about IDEO Method Cards on this
mailing list.

Pete Gordon
tools for observing users

On Jul 5, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Audrey Carr wrote:

> Has anyone ever used Ideo Method Cards and found them useful? Under
> what circumstances?

20 Aug 2004 - 1:23pm
12 years ago
1 reply
Aby Rao

Any more Interaction Design Awards coming up?

Need some advice/suggestions from this group. Few months ago, I sent in
my design for the DIS 2004 Interaction Design Award and couldn't make it
in the final cut. Although I was aware that DIS is a very competitive
conference, I never thought about what I would do with the design if I
don't make it there. Can you think of a competition where I can submit
my design or make better use of it? The design is conceptual in nature
and demonstrates its interactions with the help of flash animation.

20 Aug 2004 - 1:06pm
nyckiep at

Denver Interaction Group

Greetings All!

Myself and some of my colleagues would like to start an Interaction
group in Denver. We would like to start with a monthly happy hour.

Please email me directly at nyckiep at if you are interested and
I will be in contact about our first IXD Happy Hour. Any suggestions on
venue are greatly appreciated!

Kind Regards,
Nichole Pineau

19 Aug 2004 - 4:53pm
12 years ago
1 reply
Tony Lopez

Are you building RIA's?

I'm in search of individuals and studios that have been designing and/or
building RIA's. I'm particularly interested in speaking to parties who have
been working with Macromedia Flash and Flex.

I'm in the process of building the user experience discipline for Macromedia
Professional Services and I want to establish outsourcing relationships with
top talent. Please contact me directly if you think that you or your company
fits the bill.


Tony Lopez | User Experience | Macromedia Consulting

19 Aug 2004 - 2:27pm
Mark Canlas

Displaying stati in situations where statusinformation is unavailable

I immediately see a Perl-type philosophy coming into play. Something along
the lines of "anything in, controlled (or consistent) out" meaning that a
good Perl script or system should be able to accept anything thrown at it,
and respond to it in a very consistent way, regardless of if it could handle
it or not.

So, your original system consisted of one user in two states, logged in or
logged out.

19 Aug 2004 - 11:11am
Jef Raskin

Re: Morality and Windows UI Compliance


The Mac interface is hardly better than Windows. The differences are
mostly trivial. I have written a number of critiques of it.

You ask for alternative guidelines: Have you seen my book?

"Also, we're in business, our customers demand
> windows compliant stuff - and yes, this is exactly what they do demand
> however unfortunate that is."

I am in business, too.

19 Aug 2004 - 9:50am
Jens Meiert

Displaying stati in situations where status information is unavailable

I'd appreciate an additional opinion -- how do I display a status the most
elegant when I encounter situations where this status information is not

Precisely: Operating a large portal including ASP services [1] we indicate
some sort of status via 'login' and 'logout' links -- as you can imagine, if
a user is logged in, he gets a 'logout' link, if he is logged out, he can
log in.

Now we ran into trouble having external partners who are 'seamlessly'
included in our portal application but (for whatever reason) not able to
display that status -- and per default, we now show the 'login

18 Aug 2004 - 9:46pm
12 years ago
1 reply
carl myhill

RE: Windows UI Compliance ; "intuitive"

Hi Jef

Would be interested in any alternatives you can suggest. Here's the

- 5 development sites in 5 different countries
- 10 developers per project, most thinking they know better than follow the
Microsoft style and setting out to prove it
- 40+ projects

How do you produce software that looks consistent in that context, if you
adopt the 'unethical' stance you suggest?

I'm no great fan of microsoft style but I'd rather strictly follow one
standard than none. Microsoft seems to have the most comprehensive style
guide, though even that misses out more than it describes.

18 Aug 2004 - 4:49pm

Looking for visual designer for web application


We are looking for a couple folks who have expertise in visual design for
web and desktop applications to do some contracting work for us.
Specifically, we have two projects in mind:

(1) One of our clients would like to redesign the visuals of their web
application and would like someone to work in house for 4 weeks to develop a
color palette, visual style guide, and associated assets (i.e. buttons,
icons, etc).

18 Aug 2004 - 1:32pm
12 years ago
5 replies
Jef Raskin

Windows UI Compliance ; "intuitive"

The Windows UI guidelines are self-contradictory at points (e.g.
recommending noun-verb interaction but going the other way at times),
and lead to the kind of interfaces we all hate. To be an HCI expert and
to adhere to the Windows guidelines is, in my opinion, unethical.

Also, there is no such thing as "intuition" and interfaces are not
"intuitive". What they can be are familiar from previous experience.

For the whole argument see:

Raskin, Jef “Intuitive Equals Familiar,” Communications of the ACM
37:9, September 1994, p. 17

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